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#GamerGate - Where We Stand
09/18/14, 11:12

http://youtu.be/siiNiX5-zAk
20th century tumpet
09/18/14, 10:28

You, sir, are Hitler.
#GamerGate - Where We Stand
09/18/14, 10:06

>>And also I'm married with a child so people who agree with Nominal are not all lonely and sad adham.

You're married to a child? That's fucked up!

Seriously, I have to agree with this. The lonely basement dweller thing is pretty old. You are a lonely basement dweller = You are Joseph Goebbels.

For the record, I live in an attic with a ridiculous number of cats, so I am the opposite of a lonely basement dweller!
#GamerGate - Where We Stand
09/18/14, 09:53

The standard argument from #GamerGate is: You were paid to disagree with me with sex from Zoe Quinn.
#GamerGate - Where We Stand
09/18/14, 09:49

Sorry that you don't think this is any fun, but that's not my problem. Why don't you submit more videos?
#GamerGate - Where We Stand
09/18/14, 04:09

>>> In an attempt to come off like they somehow have nothing to hide, the reddit group releases all kinds of info they apparently think will make them look like the victims of all this and instead end up release all sort of chatlogs that reveal a near endless campaign of vitriol and misogynistic hatred directed towards her and other female figures in gaming despite their claims this had nothing to do with being hateful towards women.r

Zoe Quinn monitored the chat for three days and released her records. The group released the chat logs later.

>>Websites that talk about video games spent the last few years badmouthing their readers for the sake of people who walked right out of a Portlandia sketch, and now that they're paying for it, they've decided to go out in a blaze of hurt feelings and college-level moral grandstanding.

If these entitled bitches are their readers, I'm pretty sure they were blocking the ads anyway.
#GamerGate - Where We Stand
09/18/14, 01:59

(ps- it IS just a bunch of misogynists idiots being misogynistic, not anything more complex. Just like a racist being pissed at a black person doesn't have underlying nuance or redemption to it)

Redemption isn't the point. They're behaving horribly, and nothing is going to make their behavior less horrible, but it might occasionally make communication possible.

Regarding Anita Sarkeesian, if they hadn't started the hate campaign months before the first video was uploaded, I'd be a lot more sympathetic. Feminist criticism is not easy to understand, especially in the context of the internet. I'm not an expert, nearly everything I know I learned from an excellent article in the New Statesman that I read over the weekend.

>>>There's a common trope of framing Sarkeesian's work as "cherry-picked", as she takes isolated examples from many games and presents them as a stream of misogyny in order to create the illusion that all of these games are entirely misogynist, the entire way through. That's a fundamental misunderstanding of what it is Sarkeesian is doing with TvsWVG, and what cultural criticism in general is. These are tropes - they're fragments of a whole. By definition they don't make up the entirety of a work of art by themselves, but are instead definable cultural touchstones which artists, writers, developers etc, can use when creating a fictional reality.

>>>In other words, Anita Sarkeesian only presents sections of games as sexist because she's only talking about the sexist bits of games, and how, of the tropes developers choose to put in their games when designing for female characters, they frequently fall back on sexist ones. Seriously, she couldn't be clearer about this

>> in the introduction to the very first video she says:

" This series will include critical analysis of many beloved games and characters, but remember that it is both possible (and even necessary) to simultaneously enjoy media while also being critical of its more problematic or pernicious aspects."

Try to comprehend that last paragraph. She's repeated this disclaimer more than once. She's not saying that the games are bad. She's not saying that you shouldn't have your fun. Gender messages are everywhere in everything, in bad art and good art. Therefore, identifying gender tropes in art doesn't make the art bad. It's not necessarily about destroying everything. It can be about reconciliation and new understanding, filtering out the bathwater and leaving the baby alone. I once read about about a feminist critic who spent years identifying sexist tropes in the work of an author she openly admired.

There's been feminist literary and film criticism for generations, but as far as I know no one has ever lost their shit because of this and became convinced that critics were out to destroy books or movies. Also I've never heard of a literary critic that didn't love books, or a film critic that didn't love movies. The fact that she hasn't mastered all the details and nuances of playing every game that she discusses doesn't mean that she doesn't like games.
#GamerGate - Where We Stand
09/17/14, 23:27

Yeah, but if I wasn't going to tell you I was obsessed with the internet, I wouldn't have bothered.
#GamerGate - Where We Stand
09/17/14, 23:26

>>which have recently escalated to calls for genital mutilation and public executions.

I'm against that.

>>A lot of people like to strawman the thing as Call of Duty players hating women for daring to have sex or make games. That is absurd nuttery from people who get paid to claim such things (and JHM).

What I've heard about five or six times in the past two days are that the women aren't "THE REAL GAMERS". Because being a "REAL GAMER" isn't just about the games, it's about being a "REAL GAMER", and if you think that all this identification with being a "REAL GAMER" is adolescent bullshit, then you're clearly not a "REAL GAMER".

Well, the Entertainment Software Association says that 48 per cent of gamers are women,

http://www.theesa.com/facts/gameplayer.asp

And the Entertainment Software Association includes microsoft, sony, sega, and nintendo

http://www.theesa.com/about/members.asp

The industry is made up of grownups, and it doesn't care about "REAL GAMERS" To them, the fact that the women are playing on their phones (or so the "REAL GAMERS" say, ) makes them an untapped market, and the industry is starting to woo them. Anita's Ambassador award sent a clear signal, just like it was supposed to do. The "REAL GAMERS" like to say that when more women play console games, there will be more games for women, but no one in the industry is going to wait for that happen, and risk being left behind.

When women start to become "REAL GAMERS" things aren't going to change as much as they fear, but right now they feel threatened, and feminism is the designated culprit as usual. Whenever social change is undesirable (rape jokes not being cool any more, the "collapse of the American family", being forced to support your kids, it's usually feminism's fault.
#GamerGate - Where We Stand
09/17/14, 22:52

>>A lot of people like to strawman the thing as Call of Duty players hating women for daring to have sex or make games. That is absurd nuttery from people who get paid to claim such things (and JHM).

Seriously, is it me? "A lot of people like to strawman the thing as (strawman argument goes here)"

To say that this is simply men hating women is a bit of an oversimplification. It's largely adolescents protecting the emblems of the identity they're trying to build. It's mods against rockers, punks against teddy boys. The misogynistic part is the silly fear that some youtube videos by a smart woman could threaten their identities-- but regardless of the motive, it's cynical, shitty political maneuvering that's the opposite of everything it pretends to be. It pretends to be against censorship, but it's using political power in an attempt to control speech. It pretends to be for journalistic standards, but it trades in libelous speculation that the sleaziest tabloids would avoid. It pretends to decry Social Justice Warriors, but it's got its own hardass social agenda, and clearly to them, this is war.
#GamerGate - Where We Stand
09/17/14, 22:18

Classic Nominal! He starts out:

>>The local take on this is JHM is always on the lookout for target to hurl his sack of rotten tomatoes at

And then follows up with 772 words (Yeah, I did a count.) of sleazy personal attacks. Not many people can do hypocrisy with that kind of panache. Instead of rotten tomatoes, he hurls his own feces. Nominal, Baby, you're still the king!
#GamerGate - Where We Stand
09/17/14, 17:38

I don't care about video games, either. But this is the INTERNET, which i am obsessed with.
#GamerGate - Where We Stand
09/17/14, 17:37

Just came back from dinner stopped at home to get my pills. Friend waiting in the car, I'll be back later

#GamerGate is fucked in the head because:

1. It pushes a narrative of gossip and speculation in the name of "journalistic standards". WTF

2. It objects to sites "censoring" libelous personal information from their comments for the sake of "journalistic standards" In the real world, that's called "editing", and it's where journalstic standards come from.

3. While we're all typing out fingers to the bone on our super duper hashtag so that sites won't "censor" comments, and we're against censorship, here is your list of approved topics.

Best part is that there are no concrete demands. This will allow them to keep the party going and to tweak it periodically according to the demands of the tantrum du jour.
Thunderf00t busted!
09/15/14, 19:04

Probably no one is going to read this, so I'll be brief. Two points:

The harassment of Anita Sarkeesian, Catie Wayne, and Laci Green all had one thing in common: THE IDENTITY POLITICS of the internet. People doing crazy horrible things in defense of being A GAMER, a TRANS, an OLDFAG.

I'm not sure that it was exclusively men who threatened Laci Green.
Laurel and Hardy in 'The Flying Deuces' (1939)
09/15/14, 09:08

I can't think of anyone who made the transition from silent to sound as beautifully as Laurel and Hardy. In fact, they came along pretty late in the the silent era, and it may be that Hal Roach was shrewdly thinking about sound when he put them together.
Thunderf00t busted!
09/14/14, 20:05

My son is a gamer. He has bad arthritis, and has been in a wheelchair much of his life, but he jumps and dashes through WOW like a monkey. It's wonderful to see.

I don't know if it's a trend, but if you want to see an example of progressives engaging in real hate, consider the case of Laci Green, stalked, threatened and terrorized for apparently using a mild epithet against trangendered people, without realizing it, and apologizing later. I never followed this story very closely, but when you consider the cases of Laci Green, Catie Wayne, and Anita Sarkeesian, the only thing they have in common is a bunch of men terrorizing a single woman.

The reason why this sort of thing is so toxic is that it makes it risky for women to attract attention on the internet, where attracting attention is everything. This could discourage women's voices.

But it doesn't matter who it's being done to, who's doing it or why. Threats, harassment and character assassination can't be tolerated.
Thunderf00t busted!
09/14/14, 19:17

>>If the internet had existed back during the Tipper Gore thing then you could guarantee that she'd be getting them same comments, and you guarantee Christian groups would have pointed it out as proof that heavy metal turns people evil.

That would also be fucked up. I have no idea how this is supposed to change anything.
Thunderf00t busted!
09/14/14, 14:02

Nominal, let me make three points:

1. You are a weepy bitch with a persecution complex, and you should eat a bag of dicks.

okay, that's about it, actually.

I'm seeing this sort of thing all over now. As the attention of the world at large starts to turn toward this controversy, the anitaphobes are realizing that the world isn't on their side (never was) and they're circling the wagons and -- guess what-- playing the victim card!!

It's stupid and hateful to say that all gamers are to be executed, but it's not directed at a specific person, and it's not remotely possible. That makes it not much of a threat. It's also from a specific person with a name. It's very different from "I will rape your cunt with an iron rod" which is based on a real example of an anonymous message to Anita.

It's not that I endorse the statement about executing gamers, it's that seeing you get all excited about it is just about the most pathetic thing I've ever seen on the internet, outside of maybe TFL. You must be missing the "shame chromosome".

Once again, I believe that gamers should be free to game, and critics should be free to criticize. And you should eat a bag of dicks.
Inappropriate Inflatable Kid's Slide
09/14/14, 13:05

NO! WE WILL NOT LET YOU GO!
99 Red Balloons, played on red balloons
09/13/14, 23:19

Internet, you've done it again!

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