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Veterinarian is Fired After Killing 'Feral' Cat with Bow & Arrow
04/20/15, 12:37

Let's face it, she's a piece of work, and angry comments are to be expected.

It's the threats, it's stuff like someone talking about how someone ought to cut her throat. That shit is fucked up just because it's fucked up. It doesn't matter if no one's actually going to cut her throat, or even if she's not going to read it. The internet is our culture, and making threats of violence an accepted form of discourse will make our culture fucking horrible, and make more serious forms of threats and real harassment less of a stretch.
Unendurable Young Person Talks At Camera
04/20/15, 12:11

Either this video goes, or I go.
Unendurable Young Person Talks At Camera
04/20/15, 12:10

I think the Tuxedo may be haunted.
20th Century Fox logo for Alien 3
04/20/15, 12:08

>>Why do you think Fincher disowns this as part of his filmography?

Well, at least he has the sense to do that.

It may be that all the stuff i read in 1991 about The Dark Vision of David Fincher may have been studio hype. I had a feeling I was getting carried away, but I really enjoyed that rant. Aliens is one of my favorite movies of the 80s. Alien3 by itself isn't terrible, but the killing of Newt sort of makes Aliens seem pointless, so I've been mad about that for 20 years.
20th Century Fox logo for Alien 3
04/20/15, 10:10

Rule 1: Fuck David Fincher
Rule 2: Fuck you, David Fincher.
20th Century Fox logo for Alien 3
04/20/15, 10:08

Aliens is a far superior film, and I'm still butthurt at David Fincher for shitting on it for no good reason. Why did Newt have to die? I can't see any reason for it other than she wouldn't have fit into Fincher's dark gritty shaved head exhaust fan vision. She would have mellowed his harsh.

>>I don't get why people are so butt hurt over the death of Hicks and Newt. I think the people at RLM said it best when one of them said "these movies are basically about how the alien ruins Ripley's life."

They weren't about that until Fincher derailed the franchise for the sake of his dark atmospheric vision, and his apparent film school infatuation with Blade Runner.
Veterinarian is Fired After Killing 'Feral' Cat with Bow & Arrow
04/20/15, 07:30

>>Oh, and while we're on the let me address Hooker's horseshit about how I feel that women who are harassed need to be rescued by awesome guys like me.

While we're on the SUBJECT! SUBJECT! shit.

My problem is that I don't write in a straight line.
Veterinarian is Fired After Killing 'Feral' Cat with Bow & Arrow
04/20/15, 07:28

Oh, and while we're on the let me address Hooker's horseshit about how I feel that women who are harassed need to be rescued by awesome guys like me.

I would if I could. If ANYone could stop ANYone else from being threatened, harassed, or bullied, they should. But you can rarely stop someone from being threatened, harassed, or bullied. All you can ever do is let the target know he or (more often) she is not alone, and remind the bullies of what they presumably already know, that bullying is wrong. They hate being reminded of that. That's why they cooked up the epithet "white knight" and the weirdly misandrist myth that a man who supports a woman's right to not be bullied MUST be doing it out of some desperate sexual motive. Which is the crazy myth you boys push all the time.

Speaking in opposition to harassment and violent hate speech is the right thing to do. It's usually a woman who is the target, but I've spoke out in support of men before, and if anyone cared enough to make me a target, it's exactly how I'd hope to be supported.

It's easy to dismiss a couple of perverse motherfuckers who attack the motives of the person trying to do the right thing when a bunch of people are doing the wrong thing. For the record, my motives aren't what you think they are, but my motives are secondary to my actions.

Hooker and Nominal, you can go fuck yourselves. Or, maybe you'd prefer to go fuck each other.
Veterinarian is Fired After Killing 'Feral' Cat with Bow & Arrow
04/19/15, 22:27

>>Just how indefensible does a young white woman's actions have to be before JHMF doesn't leap to shield her from the horrible internet meanies?

>>Child murder? It has to be child murder...right? Right?!

Honestly, if she were guilty of child murder, my position on the use of threats would be the same. What I said was that threats are never legitimate discourse. That means that a person's age, race, gender, and level of guilt are irrelevant. It's not about protecting her, it's about protecting the internet. It's about protecting all of us from becoming a mob of terrorized terrorists.

If it seems like young white women are usually the targets, that's because young white women are usually the targets. That's not coming from me, it's coming from the sickos who get off on this kind of stuff. If you don't think that's true, you're just not paying attention.

As I've said, I think she may have serious personality disorder issues. She's done a terrible thing. She deserves to lose her job, and to be prosecuted if she broke the law. I think its probably a good thing if she never gets to be a vet again.

Nominal, why isn't that enough? Why is advocating for having her professional life destroyed and maybe getting some jail time so short of the mark that you seem to accusing me of being infatuated with the woman?
Veterinarian is Fired After Killing 'Feral' Cat with Bow & Arrow
04/19/15, 12:14

Jesus, Gmork, why isn't Homer telling YOU to calm down?

Listen, most of us in here seem to be mostly sci-fi geeks, computer enthusiasts, and comics nerds, and some of us may not be the seasoned outdoorsmen that you clearly are. (No, Homer, I've never been photographed next to a fish or an animal that I've killed, but members of my family certain have been.)

I may have fired an arrow once or twice in summer camp in the 60s, I really don't remember. My main experience with arrows as a weapon is when used by Indians in old westerns. If there's something I don't understand, explain it to me, okay?
Veterinarian is Fired After Killing 'Feral' Cat with Bow & Arrow
04/19/15, 08:48

Actually, I'm Hitler. No wait, I'm Stalin.

I'm not upset, Homer, I'm just amazed at her self-destructive cluelessness, to the extent that it seems pathological. Feral or no, nobody looks at a picture of someone holding up a dead cat by the arrow in its head, and says "I think I'll take my cat to THIS vet!"

I'm not saying that she's a bad person. I think there's a good chance, an excellent chance, that she's had better moments than this. I think she did a terrible thing, and she deserves to lose her job, and for sure the clinic can't be seen as standing by her in this, but the people who talk about cutting her throat and blinding her aren't impressing me with their deep compassion.

I'm not the one who brought up the term "psychopath", and none of us are qualified to diagnose her. Again, most psychopaths are not criminals. They lack emotions, and they learn to respond appropriately to the people around them. That might explain how someone can go so far off the grid left alone with Facebook.

But that's just speculation. I'm not going to try to back it up with anything.
Veterinarian is Fired After Killing 'Feral' Cat with Bow & Arrow
04/19/15, 07:37

>>d a couple of stupid emotions thrown in that was supposed to be emoticons... or maybe emojis? Is there a difference?
Veterinarian is Fired After Killing 'Feral' Cat with Bow & Arrow
04/19/15, 07:34

I suppose you're probably baiting me, Homer, but I don't think I'm being melodramatic at all. Killing feral cats is controversial, but it's not the worst thing ever, and if she killed someone's pet by mistake, well that's a huge fuckup but it's not the worst thing ever. What's super creepy about this woman is how disconnected she seems to be from normal human emotional response. If that hadn't been someone's pet, that Facebook post would still have bitten her on the ass. It would have been a local story instead of a national one.
Veterinarian is Fired After Killing 'Feral' Cat with Bow & Arrow
04/19/15, 07:22

Well, there's an understandable tendency to assume that it's not as terrible as it was. Like I said, when I first heard that a vet had posted a picture of what she thought was a feral cat, i assumed an entirely different context. I don't know how many of you have seen the posts. What she wrote was like a parody of the callous, self absorbed, social media asshole. I couldn't paste It from the phioto, so I'll quote from memory: it was something like: "The only good feral cat is one with an arrow through its head. Vet of the year award accepted LOL", and a couple of stupid emotions thrown in. You just don't imagine a vet doing something like that, and you assume that it was an honest mistake. Until you see what she wrote.
Veterinarian is Fired After Killing 'Feral' Cat with Bow & Arrow
04/19/15, 04:22

I suppose it's possible that she's done it before, but actually, my point was that if you think your first bow and arrow cat killing is an occasion for a facebook. post like this, you may be a psychopath.

Psychopaths are supposed to be quite common, and most are not murderers. From my extremely limited understanding of the term, what would make this woman out to be a psychopath isn't so much the act of killing the cat, but the tone-deaf facebook post, which shows a lack of understanding of
human emotion that a psychopath might display.
Veterinarian is Fired After Killing 'Feral' Cat with Bow & Arrow
04/18/15, 23:27

God, I fail at proofreading!
Veterinarian is Fired After Killing 'Feral' Cat with Bow & Arrow
04/18/15, 23:26

One of my favorite things about the internet is that some of our stupidest criminals enjoy uploading evidence of the their crimes to the WWW. That shit NEVER gets old!
Veterinarian is Fired After Killing 'Feral' Cat with Bow & Arrow
04/18/15, 23:08

It's not people calling her mean names. It's people saying that she ought to have her throat cut, and you don't to be planning on actually doing it for that to be FUCKED UP. I had to flag a YT comment earlier where someone offered to pay to have her blinded. Some threats are legal, some aren't. Some targets are good people, some aren't, but it's never a legitimate form of discourse.

I haven't been threatening her, so I'm not going to feel bad. Those who have been threatening her should feel bad, not because they're being mean to a misunderstood animal lover, but because they're poisoning the internet, but I doubt that they will. I don't think as much sympathy as you think she will, and I don't think it's gong to do her that much good.

The career she must have been preparing herself for for years has been destroyed. She's being investigated for a crime. Her life is ruined. What more is needed to satisfy people's sense of outraged justice? They're acting like she getting away with something, but she's not.
Veterinarian is Fired After Killing 'Feral' Cat with Bow & Arrow
04/18/15, 21:56

Actually, I'm Stalin.
Veterinarian is Fired After Killing 'Feral' Cat with Bow & Arrow
04/18/15, 21:06

I was thinking that maybe she had posted that picture as part of a public service message about the need to control feral populations, but she posted that it was her "first bow and arrow kill". So apparently it WAS a sport for her, she WAS holding up the dead cat as a trophy, and she probably didn't give a shit if the cat was feral or not.

As a veterinarian, she's done. There's no doubt of that. I think that's just about what she deserves. People are losing their goddamn minds, posting threatening messages. Her vet career is over, and that's a good thing. She looks kind of cute. I think she'll make a fine stripper.

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