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Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/19/14, 02:57

I think most of us realized that, we just thought we'd give you the chance to show off your knowledge.
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 22:40

I'm against fat shaming, unless it's funny. I'm serious here. If it's not funny, it's mean.
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 20:39

http://tinyurl.com/m2fabzs

If you haven't read this. I urge it. Feminist criticism seems to be all about examining problematic aspects out of context, because if you condemn everything with sexist overtones in literature and art, what does that leave you? Feminist criticisim seems to be all about a reengineered relationship with culture, so that we can live in the world, and consume the images without being consumed by them.

There are reasons for the violent reaction other than stupidity or misogyny. People who are used to Cable News and internet rants are going to misinterpret Feminist frequency. I'd be more inclined to blame Anita for not adequately explaining this, if the violent reaction hadn't begin several months before the first video.

The hitman scene comes up again and again. One of these days I may go back and look at that, but i have no opinion. Some people think it's defensible, i'm not sure.

My point is that her message isn't that gaming is bad, gamers are bad, or even that particular games are bad. She's examining the tropes, people see the horrible images and think thats supposed to stand for the whole game.

>>"This series will include critical analysis of many beloved games and characters, but remember that it is both possible (and even necessary) to simultaneously enjoy media while also being critical of its more problematic or pernicious aspects."

You may not agree, and i may not agree, but there are a whole lot of things that people think she's saying that she's not saying, or at least I've never seen a real quote. Never seen her directly imply that games cause violence, or that people shouldn't enjoy games, and I've never seen her advocate censorship, or hate or anger against gamers, which is what nominal seems to think. People spend hours raging against the imaginary Anita Sarkeesian in their heads.
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 18:03

WAIT NO NO NO that's not necessarily true. There are better ways of understanding these things than big concepts like stupidity and misogyny. It's easy to forget that. They're not stupid, and they're not cartoons.

Games really have been under attack before. They've been telling themselves scary campfire stories about feminists for years, because hucksters like thunderf00t and The Amazing Atheist make money cranking out clickbait. And the internet isn't used to this kind of nuanced criticism. And like I said, it's about adolescent identification. I'm not going to tell you the embarrassing shit i was into when I was 19.
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 17:45

>>Anita may be more collected and subtle with her message, but its still clear, Women>Men.

I don't see that, but either way, who cares? You're acting like

1. It's true.
2. It's a big secret
3. She's about to let the cat out of the bag.
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 17:42

Yes, I think that's where I was going with this.
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 17:00

>>Anita did scam the fuck out of lots of people more than once. Anyone still saying she didn't is either just choosing to stick their head in the sand and ignore the evidence, is a retarded white knight, or is a liar helping her further her career as a scam artist.

Well, you make a persuasive argument, but I prefer to think of myself as a simpering momma's boy who hates himself.
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 15:57

Yeah, I'm also feeling a little slighted.
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 15:42

When feminist literary critics discuss sexist tropes in literature, including works by authors they openly admire, no one accuses them of attacking books, or people who read books.

When Anita Sarkeesian claims to love games, I believe her, not only because the evidence against is inconclusive, but because I've never heard of a film critic who hated movies, or a literature critic who hated books.
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 15:36

>>Once you've painted a group negatively with gross misinformation, it's easy to cherry pick only the most hateful replies in order to feign shock and claim the problem is worst than you thought. It's a routine done over and over and over again by the Right and it's sad to the progressive's base adopting it.

See, now you're playing the victim, persecuted by academic criticism-- and how much cherry picking do you think it takes to get to the really hateful responses?

Your assumption is that criticism of a trope extends to the work as a whole, and by extension to the audience. That's how thinks work on Fox News, it's now how cultural criticism works.

Nobody hates you for liking video games. It's because you're a dick.
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 15:25

Why don't you just watch and comment on some other video, Nominal? Everybody knows where you stand on this.
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 15:24

I don't really have much of an opinion about Anita Sarkeesian as a critic, but I'm convinced that practically everyone who's complaining misunderstands her premise, and that's easy to do, especially on the internet, where there's rarely a distinction between criticism and trashing, either in perception or reality.

She's not saying what everybody thinks she's saying. She not using sexist tropes to say that a work is sexist. She's talking about the tropes themselves.



This article is key. You don't have to agree with it, but if you don't understand AnitaSarkeesian's work on its own terms, you don't understand it, period.

http://tinyurl.com/m2fabzs

>>There's a common trope of framing Sarkeesian's work as "cherry-picked", as she takes isolated examples from many games and presents them as a stream of misogyny in order to create the illusion that all of these games are entirely misogynist, the entire way through. That's a fundamental misunderstanding of what it is Sarkeesian is doing with TvsWVG, and what cultural criticism in general is. These are tropes - they're fragments of a whole. By definition they don't make up the entirety of a work of art by themselves, but are instead definable cultural touchstones which artists, writers, developers etc, can use when creating a fictional reality.

>>In other words, Anita Sarkeesian only presents sections of games as sexist because she's only talking about the sexist bits of games, and how, of the tropes developers choose to put in their games when designing for female characters, they frequently fall back on sexist ones. Seriously, she couldn't be clearer about this - in the introduction to the very first video she says:

>>"This series will include critical analysis of many beloved games and characters, but remember that it is both possible (and even necessary) to simultaneously enjoy media while also being critical of its more problematic or pernicious aspects."
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 15:20

Nominal, if you think my repeated comment about eating a bag of dicks was directed at all critics of Anita, and not to you personally, you've underestimated the depth of my feelings for you.
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 15:14

I'm going to say this every time it comes up.

I don't really have much of an opinion about Anita Sarkeesian as a critic, but I'm convinced that practically everyone who's complaining misunderstands her premise, and that's easy to do, especially on the internet, where there's rarely a distinction between criticism and trashing, either in perception or reality.

She's not saying what everybody thinks she's saying. She not using sexist tropes to say that a work is sexist. She's talking about the tropes themselves.



This article is key. You don't have to agree with it, but if you don't understand AnitaSarkeesian's work on its own terms, you don't understand it, period.

http://tinyurl.com/m2fabzs

>>There's a common trope of framing Sarkeesian's work as "cherry-picked", as she takes isolated examples from many games and presents them as a stream of misogyny in order to create the illusion that all of these games are entirely misogynist, the entire way through. That's a fundamental misunderstanding of what it is Sarkeesian is doing with TvsWVG, and what cultural criticism in general is. These are tropes - they're fragments of a whole. By definition they don't make up the entirety of a work of art by themselves, but are instead definable cultural touchstones which artists, writers, developers etc, can use when creating a fictional reality.

>>In other words, Anita Sarkeesian only presents sections of games as sexist because she's only talking about the sexist bits of games, and how, of the tropes developers choose to put in their games when designing for female characters, they frequently fall back on sexist ones. Seriously, she couldn't be clearer about this - in the introduction to the very first video she says:

>>"This series will include critical analysis of many beloved games and characters, but remember that it is both possible (and even necessary) to simultaneously enjoy media while also being critical of its more problematic or pernicious aspects."
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 14:48

Yes, it's those nasty radical feminists, marching in the streets with their half hour video lectures. BEWARE THE PLAID PERIL!
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 14:22

Define "defend".

I watched one of Anita Sarkeesian's videos, and found my agreement and disagreement was about 50/50.

But I promise you, not one of these fussy manbabies has a clue what these videos are saying, and I have a big problem with personal attacks and character assassination passing for "criticism". Never mind the threats.

Fuck you, Homer. Get a blog.
#GamerGate - Where We Stand
09/18/14, 14:02

This was supposed to be posted on an entirely different page.
#GamerGate - Where We Stand
09/18/14, 14:00

Can anyone tell me if Caminante Nocturno is serious.

By the way, Cam, you were right about the reply button being a brain teaser to me. Like right now. God knows where this will end up.

Wel, it looks like the Right Wing has officially reached the bottom of the barrel.
Slovenly Neckbeard Whines About Having to Work on his Anti-Sarkeesian Documentary
09/18/14, 13:41

The monkey gets old, but putting this guy's bitching of this guys images of the treatment of Anita is nicely done.
Kanye Sydney wheelchair 'incident'
09/18/14, 11:12

http://youtu.be/siiNiX5-zAk

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