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Truth Campaign: Its a Trap
09/06/15, 14:38

>> KYM tracks SEARCH popularity, which is easy to get for any possible topic and that's got to be WAAAYYYY skewed, since it seems intuitive to assume that, once you know about something, you're less likely to search for it.


But popularity is exactly what's relevant to our discussion. If you're interested in a meme, you'll keep searching for it, even though you know what it is already.

All you're really saying here is that we should expect search popularity to drop after an initial surge in interest, and of course this is precisely what happens. How much interest remains, and how far it has dropped, gives us a measure of how popular the meme is currently.


>> There are twice as many likes as dislikes

That's a pretty poor showing. Youtube users are far more likely to "Like" a video than "Dislike" it, particularly when the video's subject matter is not immediately controversial (i.e. it doesn't deal with religion or politics).

For example, Justin Bieber is a pretty commonly-reviled figure, yet his latest uploaded video has garnered an L/D ratio of 1,000,000/60,000 (16.6) in a little under six days. The Amazing Atheist, another controversial figure, recently uploaded a video attacking Anita Sarkeesian which earned an L/D of 20,00/1,500 (13.3). Hell, even Davis Aurini averages at least 4/1! Which means that, just going off of the L/D ratio (which is most likely skewed by the Truth Campaign's own social media PR team), this Truth ad has been more poorly received than Justin Bieber, The Amazing Atheist, and your good friend Aurini.
Truth Campaign: Its a Trap
09/06/15, 07:11

Hey Cena, what do you think of smoking? Is it cool, or is smoking for dorks?
CowGirl vore
09/06/15, 07:08

I'm not sure what game this is, but there's an entire cottage industry of "reverse-rape" eroges like this, with a large and rapidly-growing fan community behind them. The most notorious of them is a series called "MonsterGirl Quest", and they all seem to follow the same basic pattern: J-RPG, young male (possibly shota) protagonist, you fight girl monsters, and when you lose, you get raped/ eaten/ raped and eaten.

There are a ton of Let's Plays and Youtube clips for these games; most have NSFW on-screen written dialogue, but heavily censored artwork and audio, which I think is why they evade YT's censorship policies. Would any poesters like to see more?
Truth Campaign: Its a Trap
09/06/15, 07:05

The tl;dr summary of my findings: the Truth Campaign is out of touch.
Truth Campaign: Its a Trap
09/06/15, 07:03

Overly Attached Girlfriend peaked in June 2012 and fell rapidly; she is now at less than 10% of her initial popularity.
{http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/overly-attached-girlfriend}

Ermahgerd peaked in August of 2012 and wore out her welcome in less than a year; she now barely registers as a meme, at less than 5% of her initial popularity.
{http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ermahgerd}

Puking Rainbows peaked in April of 2012; its staying power has been better than the others, and remains at about 15%.
{http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/puking-rainbows}

The other memes I can't locate search term data for, but Jospeh Ducreux has been a meme since 2009, and with the exception of a brief cameo by Youtuber "Nigahiga", none of the things included in this video seem to be popular nowadays.


Judging by the cluster of 2012 memes, my guess would be that either a) the intern responsible for this ad was on 4chan back in 2012, and has fond memories of that year's memes, or b) the year 2012 was chosen by committee, possibly because current college freshman would have been just starting highschool when these memes were popular, and should remember them.

It clearly didn't work. Nearly every comment left is a joke about "cancer" and wanting to smoke because of this video.
Truth Campaign: Its a Trap
09/06/15, 06:29

Anyway, moving on to the commercial itself, most of these memes seem to be pretty old and played out. I'd like to check some of the numbers to see if the Truth campaign is genuinely out of touch; does anyone know when they filmed this commercial? Is it brand new, or more than a few months old?
Truth Campaign: Its a Trap
09/06/15, 06:25

Caminante speaks the truth. Most of the times I've encountered the "Trap" meme, it's been in reference to Bridget.

I have to dispute the proposed "transphobia" tag. The word "trap" is typically used by Bridget fans; it's a term of endearment, and it carries decidedly positive connotations! This positivity continues even when the word "trap" is applied to individuals other than Bridget, e.g. Bill from Tokio Hotel, Poison, and Bailey Jay. Trying to label the term as a transphobic slur reveals a profound lack of experience, both with the word and with the people who use it - people who like talking about traps aren't trap-haters, they are trap FANS, as encompassed by their aphorism, "Everyone is gay for Bridget".

Furthermore, there are no clear references to transexuals anywhere in this commercial. As ever, context is key, and even if one insists that the word "trap" can be construed as "transphobic" when applied to transexuals, it certainly wouldn't constitute transphobia when there are no trans-individuals involved at all.

In short, the word "trap" is no more "transphobic" than the word "loli" is "pedophobic", or the word "bro" is "androphobic". Heed Caminante! Stop being old-man clowns.



With that said, you guys are partially correct about the age of of the meme and its usage having peaked. My fellow poesters raise some good points about being old and out-of-touch- just going off the top of my head, I can't really say whether or not kids still recognize the sexual connotations of the word "trap".

Fortunately, we don't have to rely on our own experience, because search-term data exists. According to KYM and Google Trends, interest in the Admiral Akbar meme spiked around December of 2010, before dropping rapidly and leveling off. There's been a slight upturn in interest over the last few months, but people are definitely not as into "It's a Trap!" as they were five years ago.

HOWEVER, search interest in phrases more specific to transexual fetishism is on the rise. The phrase "anime trap" (the meaning of which is pretty unambiguous: a person looking for "anime traps" is almost certainly interested in transexual anime characters) has been rising steadily since "trap's" initial adoption by 4chan, sometime in 2009. "anime trap" is currently three or four times more popular than it was in December '10, the heyday of the Admiral Akbar meme! As such, I think it's fair to conclude that people are still extremely aware of the sexual slang, more so than ever before.

The one caveat I have to mention is that the available data is not broken down by demographics. We have no way of knowing if *young people* - that is, teenagers and early college students, the target audience for the Truth campaign - are searching for delicious traps, or if all that traffic is coming from people who are slightly older - the first generation of Anons, now in their mid 20s and 30s. Still, I think the stable popularity of the Admiral Akbar meme, as well as the ever-rising popularity of the word "trap" as a specific reference to transexuals, is a pretty good indication that kids today know what it means.
New Orleans Alligator Devours Pig [ Graphic ]
09/05/15, 15:04

This clip makes a very strong case against gluttony. Had that poor pig chosen to eat right and engage in a healthy, active lifestyle, he would still be alive today.
Gay Rights Special Rights
09/05/15, 14:39

Also, special attention should be paid to the following issue, which seems to be the filmmaker's central point of contention: do you believe that homosexuals should be given minority status classification? If so, then do you believe that this same elevated status should be extended to all sexual minorities? Why or why not?
Gay Rights Special Rights
09/05/15, 14:36

So having just finished watching the first thirty minutes or so, a question for my friend on poeTV: Which of this film's claims are incorrect? Which claims, if any, are correct? And most importantly, why?
Manny Skywatch provides experimental proof that the earth is flat
09/05/15, 12:12

I'm not engaging SolRo. I'm engaging Miss Henson's 6th Grade Class, who, no offense, is at least 50x cooler/smarter/kinder than both you and SolRo put together.

Besides, SolRo agrees with me. I'm always happy to fuel agreement!
Manny Skywatch provides experimental proof that the earth is flat
09/05/15, 09:52

I wouldn't really call this guy "anti-science". He makes a number of fairly obvious errors both in his experimental setup and in the conclusions which he draws, but nevertheless, he knows the value of observation and experimentation.

His thinking could more accurately be described as "bad-science", not "anti-science".
Kids Attack Furries
09/05/15, 07:44

Here's a screenshot:

http://fav.me/d98g6na

Not HD, since the video wasn't streamable higher than 360p, but you can still clearly make out the boner.
Adult Baby Pirates
09/05/15, 05:26

I don't think he's a real baby. He looks like he's in his 20s, which is too old for a baby.
Reddit in the 1980s
09/04/15, 19:14

Or r/asexual, where bitter, unlovable nerds pretend to be uninterested in sex!

Truly, there is a subreddit for every kind of weirdo.
Trump's 757
09/04/15, 11:41

Why would I be terrified? Trump is a team player, a moderate Democrat with lots of friends, who'll wind up doing the exact same things any of the other major party presidential candidates would do if they got into office. Think of Trump as an older, flabbier John Cena. He's great on the mike, crap in the ring, and - this is key - a completely dependable company man behind the scenes.

I'm not *happy* with that, for the same reasons that I'm not happy with ANY of the bipartisan candidates who've been vetted for our consideration - I'd love for you guys to vote a Libertarian or a Green into office for a change! But the flipside of that is, I'm not particularly scared of him, either. Worse comes to worst, he'll be Hillary Clinton, just with the added bonus of having five of the six American media corporations demonizing him and criticizing his every move - as well they should.

Plus, Ivanka is my dad's former advisee, and if Mr Trump gets into office, *I* certainly won't see anything out of it, but my alma mater will probably get a new math department or athletics field. So no worries!
Reddit in the 1980s
09/04/15, 11:15

The joke is that Reddit wasn't around in the 1980s. It is a parody of 1980s tech, using Reddit activity from today.
Kids Attack Furries
09/04/15, 11:12

I think they'll just be publishing books on it and getting their fellow academics who work in the Humanities field to take furry raids seriously.
Kids Attack Furries
09/04/15, 11:09

Actually, no, belay that, I don't think Jared was ever in this one. It's most of the guys from his old band, but I think he was in Nethereal, their previous death metal outfit, not Xenosis.

Anyways, not to play favorites or anything, but the lead guitarist, Ernie, is most definitely the guy to watch! The stuff on Xenosis doesn't showcase his talents and completely fails to do him justice, but he's very shy and hasn't released any of his jazz fusion stuff... yet. I'll let you know if I can convince him to record some of his Shawn Lane style jams.

Their drummer's also really good, if you're into drumming at all. Here's his winning solo from a regional drum contest last year: https://youtu.be/ETyFwdoP3XA
Kids Attack Furries
09/04/15, 10:58

Yeah IZ, I was thinking about you, because they're playing at Toad's, and I know you've mentioned liking Toad's before.

It's Jared Sloan's old band (ATTN: Jared fans), Xenosis.

https://www.facebook.com/xenosisband

Badideas - that sounds like fun! Probably a pain in the ass while it was actually happening, but I can imagine big fursuit + lots of drunk people + not being able to see a goddamn thing would = memorable times.

Perhaps I can just buy some Sonic the Hedgehog Halloween costume and paint in in Sonichu colours?

BvBB - it is definitely a boner. That crotch bulge is not there earlier. It seems to appear because some little girls were pulling on his tail.

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