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Scientists announce finding Gravitational Waves confirming Einstein's theory
02/12/16, 18:12

Also, something I've been wondering: have the papers been thoroughly peer-reviewed yet, and if so, did they meet approval? Also, how many times have these waves allegedly been observed? Are there multiple, independent sources who can corroborate this team's observations, and if not, how long will it be until we can see independent confirmation (or refutation) of their findings?
Scientists announce finding Gravitational Waves confirming Einstein's theory
02/12/16, 18:06

Meme - yeah, I can accept that! I'm happy to be noise in this diagram, until you can convince me otherwise.
Scientists announce finding Gravitational Waves confirming Einstein's theory
02/12/16, 18:03

I think the bigger problem here, something which gmol alluded to and something which came up in that now-thoroughly debunked Bose video yesterday night, is this tendency for people to dive headfirst into the buzz over every little advance (real or imagined) that takes place in SCIENCE. People (and I include myself in this!) have a tendency to overinflate the significance of scientific stories which are presented to them in a romantic, dramatic fashion, even when they themselves don't have a professional-level understanding of (or stake in) these stories, even to the point of shutting down their ability to think skeptically...!


I'm not trying to be confrontational. While I don't see why we should give this story anything more than a "meh, that's nice", I am totally open to new points of view here. If there *are* no real-world engineering applications for gravitational waves at present, then that need not be the deathknell for gravitational-wave social media buzz.

Messrs Wildcat and Dumpster, what do YOU find compelling about this story?
Scientists announce finding Gravitational Waves confirming Einstein's theory
02/12/16, 17:26

A device which can detect the existence of gravitomagnetism is not the same as having an "engineering grasp of" gravitomagnetism, any more than a telescope which can view the sun grants you an "engineering grasp" of nuclear fusion.

Yes, using a pair of laser interferometers to (allegedly, according to these researchers) detect evidence of the existence of gravitational waves is an engineering application, and yes, it is a "first step" (arguably a second step, given that these waves have been theorized to exist for almost a century now) in maybe possibly finding a technological use for gravitational waves - whether that is to "escape this gravity well", as you put it, or to do something else. But it is not, in and of itself, an engineering application *of* these waves.
Scientists announce finding Gravitational Waves confirming Einstein's theory
02/12/16, 14:52

>> Uhm, that is what is under discussion. This is the first engineering application. There is nothing theoretical about those detectors.


Wait, sorry, were gravitational waves used in building LIGO? According to the video and the paper you linked, LIGO uses a laser interferometer, which would make this an engineering application of *lasers*, not of gravitational waves.
Scientists announce finding Gravitational Waves confirming Einstein's theory
02/12/16, 14:44

I am on neither side of the diagram, my dear Mr Dumspter, as I am not an expert on gravitational waves, nor do I like posting about them. If I am to be placed anywhere, then I am either to the top or to the bottom, outside the boundaries of both of gmol's sets.

Show me what the gravitational-wave bird can do for us, and if (like Bose's electromagnetic suspension system) it can do nothing as of yet, then at least give me a convincing argument as to why I should retweet this.
Scientists announce finding Gravitational Waves confirming Einstein's theory
02/12/16, 14:04

"is gonna require an engineering grasp of gravitomagnetism"

Right. You get some engineers with a background in applied science (not theoretical scientists) to demonstrate that they can make use of these things - under proper testing conditions, mind you, none of this "gravitational-wave-cars magically hopping over speed bumps, because oh wait, the course was rigged" nonsense - and then, Michio Wildkaku, then maybe I'll be impressed.
Scientists announce finding Gravitational Waves confirming Einstein's theory
02/12/16, 11:59

Counterpoint: Mr Wildcat believes we can reach the stars by holding on to giant birds.
George Carlin - Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners.
02/12/16, 11:44

OZ- I think you mean... (⌐■_■) neoPoEgisms.
George Carlin - Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners.
02/12/16, 11:40

Just kidding! You can say whatever you like, misterbuns. :: http://tinyurl.com/nodsu-nodsu ::

I think George Carlin knew that people might be seen as jerks if they said impolite things. He also knew why a small minority of jerks were beginning to police language - claiming that free speech goes to far, and intimidating people who were exercising their right to be a jerk. (the reason why can be found here in this clip)
George Carlin - Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners.
02/12/16, 08:33

Stop calling people "straight white guys", please, that term is marginalizing and offensive.
George Carlin - Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners.
02/12/16, 08:00

The story really began in the middle sixties, the period of the great purges in which the original leaders of the Revolution were wiped out once and for all. By 1970 none of them was left, except Big Brother himself. All the rest had by that time been exposed as traitors and counter-revolutionaries. Goldstein had fled and was hiding no one knew where, and of the others, a few had simply disappeared, while the majority had been executed after spectacular public trials at which they made confession of their crimes. Among the last survivors were three men named Jones, Aaronson, and Rutherford...

Some time after their release Winston had actually seen all three of them in the Chestnut Tree Cafe. He remembered the sort of terrified fascination with which he had watched them out of the corner of his eye. They were men far older than himself, relics of the ancient world, almost the last great figures left over from the heroic days of the Party. The glamour of the underground struggle and the civil war still faintly clung to them. He had the feeling, though already at that time facts and dates were growing blurry, that he had known their names years earlier than he had known that of Big Brother. But also they were outlaws, enemies, untouchables, doomed with absolute certainty to extinction within a year or two. No one who had once fallen into the hands of the Thought Police ever escaped in the end. They were corpses waiting to be sent back to the grave.
Top 20 Funniest Scenes in Angel Season 2
02/12/16, 07:46

No, no, it's -Justine- Wood. See the mustache? Two completely different people.
Top 20 Funniest Scenes in Angel Season 2
02/12/16, 07:44

Well, I like Cayla Wood, and I enjoy seeing the funniest moments in Angel.
What's the difference between Latino and Hispanic?
02/11/16, 20:25

I like things that are pedantic and inoffensive. I had a blast watching this video.
IN RESPONSE TO SOFLO
02/11/16, 20:23

... unleeeessss...

Unless they're not Content Partner's yet! Quick, how do I become a Content Partner? If I act fast, maybe I could turn the tables on 'em, cannibalize all of Patek Phillipe's "official" traffic.
IN RESPONSE TO SOFLO
02/11/16, 20:20

OH SHIT!

That means Patek Phillipe could get my Facebook page shut down, AND steal all my followers and Likes!
IN RESPONSE TO SOFLO
02/11/16, 20:08

It's fun logging on to Youtube from different machines and under different profiles. My home PC has the mandatory NWO-sponsored content on top, but then it's all swords, furries, vore, Aurini, Babymetal, centaurs, half-naked fat women, Sonic fanart, more swords etc. PoE has basically made Youtube awesome.

If I check Youtube from anywhere else - my burner tablet, let's say - it's like stepping into a whole 'nother world, a world of jump cuts and PewDiePies and the screaming faces of Makeup Gurus crudely greenscreened over top of a trending subject matter.
IN RESPONSE TO SOFLO
02/11/16, 19:26

You know, all of this could be solved with a holmgang.

Just putting that out there.
Bose's electromagnetic car suspension system in action
02/11/16, 08:29

If Bose really wanted to sell these things then they would actually build them.

Of course, they don't want to sell these things, at least not right now - what they want to do is build brand recognition and sell sound equipment.

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