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Sarah Haider: Islam and the Necessity of Liberal Critique
01/23/16, 11:32

Well, just speaking for myself, I care about the principles, not the narrative. This is why, for example, I criticize Obama/Biden just as vehemently as I criticized Bush/Cheney, regardless of the fact that the cultural narrative in which I'm steeped has long since reversed poles.

Again, I am not making predictions here. You, Ms Hazlenut, and you too, Mr Guy, are both your own actors with your own thoughts and your own journeys to make. It is entirely possible that you care about principles over narratives - hell, for all I know, ten years ago you could have both been Young Republicans, just as eager to smash the Islamic menace as you are now!
Litvinenko Inquiry: President Putin 'probably' approved murder - BBC News
01/23/16, 11:10

I'm sure Mr Baleen has "considered" that particular conspiracy theory - the question is, what evidence is there to support it?
Originally titled: 'Amethyst's New Year Prank'
01/23/16, 10:46

Yeah, this show sounds like something we should hate. Hoarding, child neglect, television addiction - this material is pretty perverse. And now you're telling us that Steven Universe ENDORSES bullying?!

What would Tara Strong say?
Heathcliff - The Fast and the Furriest
01/23/16, 04:19

Yeah, that sounds about right RoUS. Heathcliff was a swag alpha cat who loved to get his beast mode on; the complete opposite of that fat, passive-aggressive cuck, Garfield.
Heathcliff - The Fast and the Furriest
01/23/16, 04:12

Yeah, I watched Heathcliff. I think it was still airing when I was in preschool. I don't remember much; Heathcliff was an asshole, the Catillac Cats lived in a junkyard, and Cleo was pretty hot, you know, for a furry I mean.

It was no Inspector Gadget or Ninja Turtles, but I imagine it was at least better than Garfield.
Heathcliff - The Fast and the Furriest
01/23/16, 04:06

Fuck this; no Cleo, not interested.
Litvinenko Inquiry: President Putin 'probably' approved murder - BBC News
01/22/16, 16:13

On a totally unrelated note, I remember listening to a podcast some months ago where a frequent contributor to RT was talking about her experiences with that channel: how it was great to be able to go on RT and talk about all sorts of issues which the corporate American media didn't want to touch. But one time she tried to drop some dirt on Putin, and RT immediately shut her down - apparently, they give people given free reign to talk as much smack as possible about things like Obama, globalization, and the War on Terror, but they aren't allowed to say anything negative about Putin.

Which is strange, given that RT is financed by the Russian government; you'd think that the Russian government would love to see reporters critiquing Mr Putin, because constructive criticism can be really helpful, and how else will Mr Putin know what things he needs to work on?
Sarah Haider: Islam and the Necessity of Liberal Critique
01/22/16, 16:00

No, I'm not betting anything. I'm just curious to see how people will react when the mainstream "blue state" narrative shifts away from "let's resist the Muslim menace, for Freedom", back to "No Blood for Oil".
Litvinenko Inquiry: President Putin 'probably' approved murder - BBC News
01/22/16, 15:34

Well, there you go, fake as I suspected. If anyone knows what's what with Putin, it's his old pals at RT.
Sarah Haider: Islam and the Necessity of Liberal Critique
01/22/16, 15:13

The apartment building rented out to sex offenders?
Sarah Haider: Islam and the Necessity of Liberal Critique
01/22/16, 15:12

John, I'm going to have to stop you there. Not all lives are equal. While I don't have access to the EXACT weregild of each person killed in New York and each person killed in Iraq, we can at least make an effort to arrive at some sort of comparison. Remember: the WTC was an extremely important building in the heart of one of the most important regions on the planet. The Iraqis were just dumb Muslims.

According to the Fiscal Policy Institute's November 2001 report { http://www.fiscalpolicy.org/Nov5WTCreport.PDF }, the attacks on the WTC cost New York City $21.2 billion per year.

According to Iraqi Business News { http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/tag/average-income/ }, the average income for an Iraqi was historically around $5,000 per year. 500k dead times $5k a year means a net loss of $2.5 billion per year.

In other words, we CAN compare the two events in a quantifiable manner, and it turns out the damn Muslims were 8.48 times more destructive than we were. QED.
Sarah Haider: Islam and the Necessity of Liberal Critique
01/22/16, 14:52

>> Evil beliefs that one puts into action are evil.


The other day we were having a discussion about police misconduct, and you suggested that it was perfectly fine for police to violate a suspect's Fifth Amendment rights, because so long as you're a Good Guy who's trying to nab a Bad Guy, violating someone's rights is OK. This is an evil belief. This is an evil belief which leads to evil actions - police misconduct.

UNLIKE the evil of Muslims, this is actually an evil which Westerners DO have some jurisdiction over. Police misconduct is something which can affect us directly, something which citizens have a moral and philosophical duty to confront, and something which happens every day, right here in our own backyards. It's getting worse, too, thanks to a combination of apathy, learned powerlessness, and the toxic memes put out by our own self-interested cultural centers!

Rather than focusing on the plight of people half a world away, people who might not even want our help and people whom the West has a well-documented history of "helping" in the least helpful ways imaginable - rather than that, perhaps we should first focus on putting our own house in order?
Litvinenko Inquiry: President Putin 'probably' approved murder - BBC News
01/22/16, 14:25

No, if it were true, it would have been reported on RT.
Alexander Layko and the beta uprising
01/22/16, 14:24

I don't buy it.
Sarah Haider: Islam and the Necessity of Liberal Critique
01/22/16, 14:03

I'd like everyone, but particularly those of the Hazelnut/Guy variety, to revisit this submission two years into our coming Trump presidency. See if your positions have changed by that point.
Sarah Haider: Islam and the Necessity of Liberal Critique
01/22/16, 14:00

Mr That Guy does raise a good point, however. I fully support the notion of bringing liberally-minded Muslims to a free country. Lord knows that there are precious few of those left - perhaps Estonia or Switzerland would work? - but in principle, YES! Any Muslim who wishes to flee her country should be allowed to do so unmolested, and perhaps we, as Westerners, could find ways to help facilitate this. (I would suggest: lobbying your congressman to repeal protectionist immigrant labor laws, raising awareness about the TSA, donating bandwidth or even hardware to help residents of Muslim nations get anonymous, uncensored internet access)

That still doesn't mean that Islam is "the enemy". That doesn't mean we (whatever "we" means) should (with apologies to Anne Coulter) "kill their leaders and convert them all to secular-corporatism". Muslims are still entitled to keep their evil atavistic theocracies chugging along in the Middle East, just as much as we are entitled to our evil, decadent, sin-loving police state. And if those damn Muslims want to change? Then they can change. But it's their call to make, on an individual level. Not ours to make for them.
Sarah Haider: Islam and the Necessity of Liberal Critique
01/22/16, 13:40

Yes, it's very brave of her to be risking her life! I totally respect that, you will get no argument from me there. That doesn't necessarily mean she's *right*, of course, nor does it follow that a blistering critique of Islam allows us to derive any response we want - such as using Islamic barbarism to justify Western war-mongering, particularly given the historically disproportionate nature of Western responses, not to mention the self-serving oil interests that are invariably tied to actual (as opposed to theoretical) Western attempts to intervene.

For example: I put it to you that it is very brave of impoverished Muslims to stand up against Euro-American imperialism. It is very brave of Christian Conservatives to blow up abortion clinics. It is very brave of IDF soldiers to patrol the Gaza Strip. What does bravery *actually* tell us? Does the respect we might give a person for "being brave" actually change the material truth of her position, and if it does not, then why bother bringing her bravery up?

/// TL;DR: my distinguished colleague Ms Hazelnut is making a crude appeal to emotion. ///



With that said, I'd just like to stress that I am not on Mr Bort's side here. I am not on Mr Guy nor Ms Hazelnut's, either. My actual position is somewhat more complicated than this discussion will perhaps allow, and does not easily fall into either of the two partisan camps. I am sure that, given the right questions, Mr Bort, Mr Holmes and I could find quite a lot to disagree upon...!
Sarah Haider: Islam and the Necessity of Liberal Critique
01/22/16, 08:51

Doc Victor's statements about Mecca could also be made by about *our own* Holy Cities - Washington, New York, and LA! Consider: the average Muslim spends about one hour per day engaging in rituals and consuming media (such as the Qur'an) which engenders adherence to the tenets set forth by their Islamic cultural center. By contrast, the average American spends FIVE HOURS per day engaged in rituals, consuming media (like television, pop music, film) that engenders adherence to the tenets set forth by WESTERN cultural centers. Furthermore, it strikes me as odd to see Doc Victor state the following about about Islam - "Those who don't conform to these standards are labeled as outsiders if not criminals" - given that the current debate we are having is a fairly blatant example of how we ourselves do that, too! Conservative Muslims don't conform to OUR standards, so, evidently, Conservative Muslims are either outsiders or criminals.

Given that this sort of deferential, collectivist behavior - that is, devotion to geographically-remote sociopolitical elites and hostility towards outsiders - has (to one degree or other) probably always existed in both of our societies, i would say it's open to debate whether this behavior can rightly be called "atavistic". However, regardless of what we wish to call it - atavistic or something else - it's clear that _at this point in time_, both so-called "sides" of our alleged "clash of civilizations" are engaged in similar patterns of behavior.
Sarah Haider: Islam and the Necessity of Liberal Critique
01/22/16, 05:46

While I feel that Mr Bort's profanity is unnecessary, I agree with his conclusion. I'd also like to add a further point, in the form of a question: let us assume for a moment that there IS a fundamental clash of civilizations going on, and that, contrary to Mr Bort's claims, people DO have the ethical and legal right to force their beliefs on foreigners.

Which belief set, out of all possible belief sets, should be allowed to coerce those it comes into conflict with? Who gets to make this determination, and why?
Sarah Haider: Islam and the Necessity of Liberal Critique
01/22/16, 03:17

That guy - definitions are important. If people cannot agree on what they're talking about, they cannot debate with each other properly.

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