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Comments
Why I'm a Furry
12/16/14, 14:14

I first learned about furry in '99; one of my friends at prep school was a wolf furry. He was definitely a dork, but being a dork was normal for us, so no big deal. As the years went on, I met more and more furries, and they were invariably people who didn't quit "fit" with the rest of society - I've always suspected that this was the main driving force behind their initial decision to identify with non-human subcultures, like the ultimate rejection of a species which keeps rejecting them. I myself was mostly into the metal/ gamer/ D&D dork subcultures, but I noticed similar tendencies there, too! Everyone was a bit "weird".

When you say that the furry fad will be over in a year, do you mean all furry, or just the mainstream interest in furry? In other words, do you think that "true" furries - the long-term fans of the genre whom we know and love - will they keep going without missing a beat, or will the influx and rapid departure of gentrifying elements leave whatever remains of the furry community seriously fractured and worse for wear?
Caninte Tribute Animation by FleshCreature
12/16/14, 13:57

You should rewrite it as a show about furries! That would probably take off.
InternetAristocrat's guide to SJW's (Social Justice Warriors)
12/16/14, 13:47

No, I'm trying to be nice to you. I am trying to *help* you, because I am an *altruist*. There's no need for you to keep trying to bait me into an e-fight; I think you'll find that I'm one of the friendliest and most forgiving people here.

Frankly, your behavior has been completely inappropriate these last couple days, what with all this carrying on like a creepy asshole and blowing up on random poesters for no good reason. But that's OK! People don't act the way you're acting- online OR in meatspace - unless there is something going on behind the scenes.I don't know your full story, so I won't take it personally. I'm worried about you, man.

You don't have to talk to us, but just know that we're on your side.
InternetAristocrat's guide to SJW's (Social Justice Warriors)
12/16/14, 13:27

Yeah, the internet used to be a land of freedom and opportunity, a romantic golden frontier that promised to liberate the brave and make us all kings. Now it's just a dirty industrial hellscape controlled by Google, where you scream at people and get spied on by your government.

I don't know if I'd agree with his Wild West analogy, however. I do not believe that the Internet is leaving its cowboy phase. On the contrary, I would say that the internet is leaving its Native Peoples phase: the cowboy period, with its rampant violence and rapid encouragement by the creep of establishment, is what we're getting into now. The Wild West phase won't end until the Social-Twitter-Gate settlers have killed off enough of us proud tribals - and each other! - that only one of their shitty Middle-American dystopias remains.
InternetAristocrat's guide to SJW's (Social Justice Warriors)
12/16/14, 13:03

What's up with you lately, Mr Hippo? You seem totes on edge, and are lashing out at people left and right. Is there anything I can do to help?
Usagi Yojimbo Southwark Playhouse Trailer
12/16/14, 05:02

Is it still going on? My guess would be that its furry appeal would be what keeps it afloat, if indeed it's still around.

I always had a lot of difficulty coming to grips with Usagi Yojimbo, mainly because his name - Usagi - was so strongly associated with my Sailor waifu. But this play looks neat!
Caninte Tribute Animation by FleshCreature
12/16/14, 04:45

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=14093

Reference, for when it's off the front page.
Caninte Tribute Animation by FleshCreature
12/16/14, 04:43

As mentioned above, this entire animation was apparently done by a single artist in the space of about three weeks. Sure, the premise is pretty dumb, the voice acting is poor, and it utilizes some anime-inspired corner cutting tricks (Disney it is not). But it looks really darn good! Mr FleshCreature clearly knows what he's doing, and a few of the shots, like the one with the evil wolf snapping at the camera and the one where the wolf bounds from side to side, are bordering on brilliant; I could have sworn those were lifted from an actual anime show, but Mr FleshCreature's got the speedpaint time lapse videos to prove he drew them. Everything from the character designs to the backgrounds to the simple yet cool cool CGI energy effects - our furry pal put a lot of thought and effort into this, and it shows.

Now compare and contrast to Wolf, which has had dozens of workers and over six hundred weeks in which to produce its Balto-inspired masterpiece.
Wolf: the Animated Feature 2014 TRAILER
12/15/14, 21:02

Ghostdongs:

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=17016
Wolf: the Animated Feature 2014 TRAILER
12/15/14, 20:37

Yes. A bunch of poe-Red guys made their own scenes from leaked Wolf: TAF storyboards, and Ghost Dongs/ Eagles Are Sneaky Birds was arguably the most popular one.
The Bright Mystic
12/15/14, 20:34

There was also a whole mess of shady dealings and disgruntled former "employees" documented on poe-Red, but much of that info has since been lost to the Great 404. The majority of what you see written on the official WOLF page was made right at the start, back in 2002/ 2003 or so, and has stayed virtually untouched since. The movie dragged on for years, and remains "in development", but their enthusiastic fanbase started losing interest around 2006, and even the true believers were gone by 2009. I'm not even sure if the *creator* is still involved; it might just be one or two of her most diehard disciples keeping the flame burning.
The Bright Mystic
12/15/14, 20:09

Wolf's also been in the making for roughly twelve years. Twelve years, and that handful of rough-cut animations is *all* they have to show for it.
The Bright Mystic
12/15/14, 20:07

Oddeye - ugh, don't remind me! I try to set you up for a killer spike, and all I get for my trouble is that load of malarkey!!!

Seriously, tho, please don't get killed by the Tories.
The Bright Mystic
12/15/14, 20:00

Basically, Wolf is this only with the attitude towards capital in reverse: instead of saying "Rich guys, please pay me $20 million so I can make my movie", she said "Poor people, please work for nothing so I can get my movie made for free".
The Bright Mystic
12/15/14, 19:56

Wolf was a popular exhibit on PoE-Red; it was the brainchild of an inept animator/ unrealistic visionary who expected a masterpiece but didn't want to work at it. As oddeye said, she tried foisting her idea off onto internet people rather than venture capitalists, but otherwise it sounds like a similar story. (she never asked for $20 million, but she did ask for free labor in the form of unpaid animators, unpaid voice actors, unpaid editors etc etc etc, all of which was, and largely still is, script-and-storyboard unseen.)
Wolf: the Animated Feature 2014 TRAILER
12/15/14, 19:45

Fuck, now I need a drink.
Wolf: the Animated Feature 2014 TRAILER
12/15/14, 19:39

Uzuri
Post subject: 10 years with Wolf
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:29 pm
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2004 2:54 pm
Posts: 19520
Location: In my lair, where I gnaw the souls of disobedient posters

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It came to me as a bit of a shock this morning that I (Uzuri) have been with this project over 10 years.

Now my official date would have been sometime in January of 2014 -- I could probably figure it out exactly by looking at my forum join date, but I'm lazy, so I won't.

I applied as a story-board artist, weaseled my way into script work, started animating just for the hell of it, and then somehow ended up taking on a good bit of the administration. Pretty sure that if you did the forensic work it comes down to me having a big mouth, way too much confidence, and rather too much time on my hands.

Anyway, what triggered the thoughts was watching the scene 2 rough cut... mostly because I'm utterly shocked at how much better an animator I am these days. I guess doing something repetitively really does improve your skills. Some day I'll have to figure out exactly how many frames I've drawn for this project.

On the other hand, maybe I don't want to know.

Wolf has been a huge part of my life for these last 10 years; there's not a single day that goes by that I don't think of it in some manner (even if it's just because I spotted one of the doo-dads I brought home from AC or the character magnets on my fridge or I deal with a contract or a crit or fight with YouTube). I expect it to remain so for another 10 years; I'm not sure what I'd do if I stopped working on Wolf, to be honest. Probably drop dead in my tracks. I've become one of those people who do something all their lives and then can't retire.

But I guess if there's something that I had to take up in that manner, I can't think of anything better than this.
Wolf: the Animated Feature 2014 TRAILER
12/15/14, 19:36

I stuck another wolf/dog-themed animation in the hopper, so as to help put the current state of Wolf: TAF in perspective.

The forums still exist, too. They've been almost completely abandoned since 2009, but they are still perfectly maintained, perfectly preserved. One or two moderators continue to haunt their halls, posting lonely updates once every three to six months for nobody in particular to read. It's desperately sad, like something from the mind of TS Eliot... if he were a furry.

http://forum.wolfmovie.com/
The Bright Mystic
12/15/14, 17:19

So she's taking the Wolf: the Animated Feature approach then?
pumkin.avi FULL
12/15/14, 17:11

Food service jobs can't be outsourced, and they can't be given to illegal immigrants without revealing the company's hand. Applebees is the future of American labour. Mr Pumpkin is a pragmatic realist.

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