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Macho Man Randy Savage - Be A Man
02/05/14, 20:06

No way this isn't a dupe, and no way it isn't worth 5 anyway.
Got My First Record Player!!!
02/05/14, 20:05

I already feel that way when I find a real phonebooth with doors. I know someone who was trying to make a list of all the working phone booths left in the US, there aren't all that many.
Got My First Record Player!!!
02/05/14, 20:04

SteamPoweredKleenex, all that stuf fis WAY beyond the point of diminishing returns, you can get a really nice setup for very little if you take your time.

I'm pretty happy with what I'm using now, and the only thing I paid for at all was the turntable and $15 for a kit to replace the surrounds in my speakers (not counting the needle, that's about $60 a year), and I'd put it up against anything under a couple thousand that I've heard. An audiophile would scoff at it but that's as much about prestige items as it is about any kind of significant improvement in sound quality. I just like listening to music, and I especially like it when it's reproduced well enough that it can actually fool your brain into thinking you are in a different physical space.

But music and sound are a big part of my life so I put a priority on that, if you don't care then it's probably not worth the effort (but I'll still privately feel a little sorry for you because MUSIC IS THE BEST).
Got My First Record Player!!!
02/05/14, 19:50

I just threw that stuff out as examples of stuff that is a really good value and can be resold at cost or better. A CD based setup would benefit from it too.
George Zimmerman to fight DMX in boxing ring
02/05/14, 19:45

More like Joey Buttafuoco
Got My First Record Player!!!
02/05/14, 18:04

Lucky for me I've felt old since puberty so I usually don't even notice anymore.
Got My First Record Player!!!
02/05/14, 18:03

To me it's just immediately apparent when I listen to it, a CD is like looking at a picture on a two dimensional plane whereas a record (or better yet a 1/4" tape but good luck on building any kind of collection of tapes) is like looking out of an open window.

As far as hard science, there have been a few studies over the years but the most recent and conclusive I know of is this:

http://phys.org/news/2013-02-human-fourier-uncertainty-principle.html


tl;dr the mathematical models that defined the "limits of human hearing" when CDs were developed were utterly inadequate. 24/96 audio is a much closer contest (but still doesn't approach wide tape formats). CD is pretty much what it was marketed as in Europe: an upgrade to cassette for casual listening.

Anyhow, I'm more visual than verbal and don't explain this kind of stuff very well, if you're interested in a very good (if a bit out of date) technical discussion of digital audio from one of the earliest adopters and an absolute wizard of it, get yourself a used copy of "Mastering Audio" by Bob Katz.

Dig around the Tape Op blog for a lot of strongly wrded, flagrantly pro-analog rants, too.


"But that is a lot more than a turntable, OZ. The whole analog chain is dedicated circuitry, and what you hear coming in to your ear is a result of each of those elements you list."

Every single thing in there that isn't the turntable or the phono preamp secion of the amplifier is the same whether you're listening to records or CDs. The only variable is your playback medium and the quality of the player (and good luck getting D/A converters for under a few hundred dollars a channel that are a fair comparison with a solid turntable with a decent, mid-level cartridge on it (not even a big ticket item; sure you can pay as much as a used car for a needle, but you can get a couple totally good ones for around $60 and all sorts of great stuff in the $100-$150 range; on my system the best sound I get comes from the cheapest cartridge I've ever bought, it just happens to pair very well with my weird, mid 70s tone arm).

Anyway, the biggest factor BY FAR is the quality of your speakers and the second biggest is the acoustics of room you're in.
Got My First Record Player!!!
02/05/14, 17:28

They love him. I lifted this video from the coowner of a hipster record store. They all think this is great.
Got My First Record Player!!!
02/05/14, 17:27

I am also curious to learn more about this "polishing" he did.
Got My First Record Player!!!
02/05/14, 17:21

Oh he's totally right about the content of the records. also it's not going to sound so hot on that turntable, especially because I doubt he'll be changing that needle regularly (not that it matters much with that kind of needle, but by the time he wises up and gets a better turntable his overcompressed crap records will be worn out, overcompressed crap records).

But yeah, vinyl on a good setup (which you can piece together for between $150 and $500 if you go the vintage route and do your homework; my setup is respectable and was around $80 but it took a few years and quite a few bought-and-resold things to get it together, and I repaired a lot of free stuff myself to keep the prices down. Still, even paying for possible service or repairs some AR2ax, a solid 80s Marantz reciever and a decent used turntable should only be a couple hundred apeice tops, and you'd be paying ten times that to get into anything modern that could compare and it's like entering a whole new world of awesome sounding music.
Got My First Record Player!!!
02/05/14, 16:49

You should listen to a good, properly set up system, because you clearly have no idea.
'Luge'
02/05/14, 16:48

The context of two men in spandex body suits grinding each other?
MARTY PUTZ PART 1
02/05/14, 15:44

More Howie Mandell than Carrot Top.
How I got a Job at an Ivy League School
02/05/14, 14:29

A tree surgeon I know a bit teaches an annual seminar at Yale, which means he gets to tell everyone "I teach at Yale"
Nerdł reviews the mobile Dungeon Keeper remake.
02/05/14, 13:51

Never mind, looks like gog.com has ported it for windows 7/8, that's worth $6.
Nerdł reviews the mobile Dungeon Keeper remake.
02/05/14, 13:37

Fortunately original Dungeon Keeper is still just as fun and runs perfectly in DOSbox. If only Dungeon Keeper 2 were easy to run.
The Big Lipinski
02/05/14, 13:35

SFW fetish tag?
GOAT SIMULATOR 2014
02/05/14, 13:28

Goats are art.
Mondo Trasho (1969)
02/05/14, 13:27

5 for the soundtrack alone. This and Multiple Maniacs are probably my favorites still.
this skeleton thing
02/05/14, 13:23

Flawless.

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