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Tumivut - Inuit Throat Singing - The Competition Song
04/09/15, 13:54

I've always wondered if the line "sing into my mouth" in This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody) by the Talking Heads is a reference to Inuit throat singing, I could definitely see David Byrne having known all about this stuff even back then.
Tumivut - Inuit Throat Singing - The Competition Song
04/09/15, 13:52

I'll check that out, thanks!

Are you familiar with Arrington de Dionyso? You might like him.
#940 Gottlieb HAUNTED HOUSE & Bally EIGHT BALL CHAMP Pinball Machines & TURTLES IN TIME Arcade Game!
04/09/15, 11:58

Also I think it's fairly easy to make an S-video adapter for the Commodore, you should look in to doing that.
#940 Gottlieb HAUNTED HOUSE & Bally EIGHT BALL CHAMP Pinball Machines & TURTLES IN TIME Arcade Game!
04/09/15, 11:57

If you live in driving distance of Rhode Island find me on the PoeTV facebook group and I will give you my Commodore monitor. Not going to ship it, though.
#940 Gottlieb HAUNTED HOUSE & Bally EIGHT BALL CHAMP Pinball Machines & TURTLES IN TIME Arcade Game!
04/09/15, 11:56

I have a Commodore and an Amiga that both work (and those Amigas are widely held to be the best commercial multisync monitor ever made), but I don't actually use them because for the Commodore I'm content with a little 7" LCD since I only use it for the MSSIAH sequencer, and I don't have an Amiga. I need to make an adapter for my Atari ST so I can use MaxYMiser, using it with a VGA adapter only lets me use high def monochrome mode, and the mid def color mode that you need for MaxYMiser is so blurry that you can't read it when you use the normal composite out. But wiring all of those little leads to all those little pins is one of my least favorite things.
Tumivut - Inuit Throat Singing - The Competition Song
04/09/15, 11:51

With this stuff, I actually learned a bit about it years ago from a composer visiting from New Zealand who was studying it informally. She said that having two people standing face to face was a key element, because you actually sing in to each others' mouths to create standing waves or make the other person's vocal cords resonate or both, I forget exactly but it gets a kind of a sustaining drone that sounds like circular breathing sort of, but isn't. You can't hear it that well in this because they're using microphones.
Tumivut - Inuit Throat Singing - The Competition Song
04/09/15, 11:47

Anyhow, in my completely ignorant experience, it's all about tongue position. I do a kind of deep, chest tone and then make a tongue taco in my mouth and fiddle with the curl of it and the position relative to the roof until I find a position that brings out a very high pitched, almost tea-kettle like overtone that's nearly as loud as the tone coming from my chest. I don't have a clue how the people who can do three notes at once pull it off, though.
Tumivut - Inuit Throat Singing - The Competition Song
04/09/15, 11:43

It's a totally different style of singing (very pinched and nasal) but since i know about it, here are some traditional methods for training your voice to sing in the Balinese style:

-Go to the ocean on a windy day when the surf is as loud as possible. Scream at the ocean as loud as you can until you lose your voice. Repeat.

-Find a waterfall. Lie on your back under the waterfall so that it's coming down right on your throat. Scream as loud as you can until you lose your voice. Repeat.

-If you are lazy, a lot of singer apparently used a special drink made out of vegetable oil and a ton of the freshest, hottest peppers they could find. Make a big class of it and pound it right before your performance starts.
Tumivut - Inuit Throat Singing - The Competition Song
04/09/15, 11:40

ten years ago I was in the shower and I kind of figured out how to get one of those high pitched overtones Tuvan throat singing is big on, but I'm not that good at it and can't really do it when other people are around because I'm not relaxed enough. I tried it the other day or the first time in years, though, and I can still get it. Can't circular breath or anything, and can't control it much, but I can sing two notes at once. No clue if I'm doing it the right way but it sounds right.
Yoko Ono and Saxophone
04/09/15, 04:55

Yoko, on the other hand, can do exactly one thing musically and frankly isn't that good at it at all.


At its best it's like Inuit throat singing minus all cultural context and skill, but plus roughly five hundred million dollars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQFjVbwgU-k
Yoko Ono and Saxophone
04/09/15, 04:48

Same with John Zorn, really, although he doesn't get me like Sun Ra does.
Yoko Ono and Saxophone
04/09/15, 04:47

""stairwell collision" jazz " doesn't even vaguely encapsulate Sun Ra, though. Maybe parts of a couple of his albums.
Yoko Ono and Saxophone
04/09/15, 04:46

Hirst is the platonic form of art as a commodity, which is why conceptual art is kind of dead right now. In terms of artistic merit, I mean, it's obviously not dead in terms of the marketplace since it's pretty much all about branding at this point, and even on that front it's taken a big hit in the last 5 years or so.

Conceptual art CAN be amazing but these days, at least from what I've seen, it rarely is, too much money has been poured in to it since the 60s.
#940 Gottlieb HAUNTED HOUSE & Bally EIGHT BALL CHAMP Pinball Machines & TURTLES IN TIME Arcade Game!
04/09/15, 04:24

So do people retrofit with LCD panels when the CRT's go now? I know from dealing with Atari ST that finding anything multisync compatible made after maybe 1992 is difficult to impossible, but I don't know much at all about arcade machines.
#940 Gottlieb HAUNTED HOUSE & Bally EIGHT BALL CHAMP Pinball Machines & TURTLES IN TIME Arcade Game!
04/09/15, 04:06

I'm pretty sure I played Haunted House once, although I'm not actually a pinball player so they might just be blurring together. Wasn't one of the Addams Family games from the early 90s really similar?
Yoko Ono and Saxophone
04/08/15, 19:44

This video is pretty shit, though, which is too bad, I like John Zorn well enough.
Yoko Ono and Saxophone
04/08/15, 19:43

I actually quite like both the Plastic Ono Band records, hers more than John's. I don't have any more contempt for Yoko than I do for any other art star, which is to say I have some contempt but mainly because the whole art stardom thing is fucking gross. But, I mean, at least shes not fucking Damien Hirst.
Yoko Ono and Saxophone
04/08/15, 19:35

I love the Zappa mix of that live recording of King Kong with John and Yoko that they renamed "Scumbag and released as their own track. In the Zappa mix you can hear all of the trash talk the Mothers are doing about Yoko, that was taken out of the Sometime In New York mix.
#940 Gottlieb HAUNTED HOUSE & Bally EIGHT BALL CHAMP Pinball Machines & TURTLES IN TIME Arcade Game!
04/08/15, 19:27

He's like a real life Wilbur Turnblad
Cave-digging artist finds inspiration underground
04/08/15, 18:44

I don't know, these things are pretty tacky, just because you expend effort doesn't mean it's good.

Those were some really beautiful outcrops that took tens of thousands of years to form at the bare minimum, before he fucked them up.

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