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Anti-Abortion Protestors: "Abortion should be illegal, but we dunno what the punishment should be"
07/30/07, 19:54

A shame that you won't address my point -- is it because I'm part of the RELIGION IS STUPID POSSE or something?
Anti-Abortion Protestors: "Abortion should be illegal, but we dunno what the punishment should be"
07/30/07, 19:48

Actually, Chet, I'm a religious person, and was raised one, and I'll hold back from lashing out at you for assuming that I am a GODLESS INTERNET MORON or whatever the fuck, based on thinking that hard-right Christians don't often think through their positions. Because lashing out at you wouldn't be nice, and I was raised to be nice.

But I will say that I disagree with your statement that "punishment to the woman is irrelevant" -- I guaran-fucking-TEE you that they've considered what would be appropriate punishment for the abortion doctors; they haven't considered the same thing for women who get abortions, because they don't want to think about the fact that abortion isn't something forced by EEEEEVIL ABORTIONISTS upon women who just don't know better (notice that the woman who was laudably anti-death-penalty started coming up with every relativist factor which might possibly make a woman who got an abortion NOT a murderer).

There are anti-abortion protestors who've gone so far as to kill abortion doctors and have attempted to justify it by claiming that abortion is murder; would they do the same to the women who had abortions at that clinic?
Anti-Abortion Protestors: "Abortion should be illegal, but we dunno what the punishment should be"
07/30/07, 18:37

...and consider that their argument is "abortion is murder and should be illegal...but as for punishment, well, that's an issue between the woman and God, just like it is now with abortion legal, but it should be illegal because it's murder, but..."


Maybe I should edit the description to replace the word "disprove" with "counter" or "deflate" or "show the absolute idiocy of" ?
Anti-Abortion Protestors: "Abortion should be illegal, but we dunno what the punishment should be"
07/30/07, 18:28

Chet, if they really don't see a discrepancy between their belief in punishing murder by law and their belief that "God will provide the punishment", if they really think that making something illegal will keep it from happening, if they really haven't thought at all about the punishment levied for something once it is made illegal, they're either morons or are lying to the interviewer.

If you want to make something illegal, you are by definition wanting to make the people who do that thing criminals. If you don't want the people who do it to be punished, if you believe that it's an issue between the person and God, why make it illegal?

(and on a side note via JESUS CAMP: if you believe that Jesus can improve your bowling score, why can't He just make abortion something that doesn't exist and never has?)

It's quite likely that the higher-ups in the 'make abortion illegal' camp HAVE given thought to the suitable punishment for those who have abortions once they're made illegal -- but that levying a punishment proportional to their "abortion=murder" concept means stating that you want women who have abortions to be treated as murderers (death penalty? lifetime in prison?). And that concept would alienate the middle-of-the-road folks who don't like abortions.

9/11 conspiracist challenges Fred Thompson, loses, gets thrown out, whines.
07/30/07, 17:59

Good food, free health care, legal weed and HBO tv series!
9/11 conspiracist challenges Fred Thompson, loses, gets thrown out, whines.
07/30/07, 17:57

Still, not being aware of the issues raised (even if not promoted) in a forum you're part of doesn't hold water as an excuse when you're also trying to say that you may have done lobbying for groups with causes antithetical to your voting base, but that you don't recall doing a good job lobbying for them.

And really, he's a Bush apologist who looks like Darth Vader without the helmet. Does the right wing really think that this is a dream candidate?
9/11 conspiracist challenges Fred Thompson, loses, gets thrown out, whines.
07/30/07, 15:06

So is Thompson's only answer "Gawrsh, I didn't KNOW the group I was part of did THAT!!!"?
The Buzzcocks (f. Howard Devoto): "I Can't Control Myself"
07/29/07, 22:26

I can't express how happy this clip made me when I found it.
Del Tha Funkee Homosapien - Catch A Bad One
07/29/07, 21:11

dupe

Love love love this song, though.
Jeru The Damaja- Come Clean
07/29/07, 21:10

Jeru's a douchebag in person, but man do I love this album.
Babies eating lemons.
07/29/07, 00:08

Now do one with durian hard candy!
Merry Miller screws up a fluff interview with Holly Hunter
07/28/07, 09:49

"truhtruhtruh"
Merry Miller screws up a fluff interview with Holly Hunter
07/28/07, 09:06

Even edited, her delivery is abysmal.
Black Star- Definition
07/28/07, 00:42

One of the all-time greatest hip hop albums. Wish they had put out solo records as good...
Napalm Death - You Suffer
07/27/07, 17:47

Please, please. It's GRINDCORE.
Toots and the Maytals- Funky Kingston
07/27/07, 08:26

I agree that this is one of Toots' best (and really, one of my favorite pop singles of all time), but there's another version on Youtube that rocks/swings/sweats harder.

Still, I can't NOT five-star a live video of "Funky Kingston"...
Generation Chickenhawk
07/26/07, 12:16

Loses steam at the end, but not before drawing pints of blood from the chickenshit assholes.
A Racist Iraqi Soldier
07/26/07, 12:13

Aw, we really ARE exporting American values to the Middle East...
Nursing Dog Pukes, Eats Puke
07/26/07, 09:32

Wouldn't that be "out one end, in the same end"?
Elvis Costello - Radio Radio (SNL restart)
07/25/07, 11:25

Dupe or not, there's just something for the ages in having Mr. McManus singing "I wanna bite the hand that feeds me" while a furious Lorne Michaels is just off-camera, being held back by crew members...

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