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Intersectional Feminism: What is it?
05/15/16, 18:57

"but it's still a very different world than it was in 1986"

It is indeed a different world than where you come from. In 1986 they were probably just starting production on "A Different World" as a Cosby spinoff, starring Marisa Tomei as Denise Huxtable's college buddy. In 2016 Marisa Tomei is Aunt May.
Intersectional Feminism: What is it?
05/15/16, 18:41

Hazelnut - thanks! Do remember that thing about grudges, that epiphany has made a difference in my life. When you're grudging at someone it means your brain has decided they're Enemy Ape Tribe and no good can come of contact with them, which is a hell of an overreaction when all that happened is that Edna forgot to invite you to Applebee's that time. It's the equivalent of an optical illusion, except instead of your eyes being deceived it's your emotional reactions being deceived. Override it because you know it's an illusion.

simon666 - be zortch, daddy-o:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JzERIlVwjU
Intersectional Feminism: What is it?
05/15/16, 18:30

"1) and 2) It doesn't make sense to separate the theory from the practitioners on college campus. It rarely makes sense to separate religion, politics or metaphysics from their practitioners (unless you want to talk about the disconnect or forced misreading or what-have-you). Stop saying that the braying jackasses of this movement are a trivial 1%."

I don't know what percentage they are, but I would say that there is definitely a misreading at work. The theory behind intersecitonal feminism is based on observing social phenomena and developing a vocabulary and system under which they can be discussed and addressed. But unlike religion it starts with the real world and is intended to describe the real world. If people are taking a theory like intersectionalism and ending up in weird territory where one can shout the so-called oppressors into cowed silence, there's a good chance the theory is being misapplied.

Rather than likening the matter to religion, I think it comes a little closer to the Truthers, who start out with a half-understood engineering textbook and end at a point where only controlled demolitions could have brought down the WTC. It doesn't invalidate the textbook.
Intersectional Feminism: What is it?
05/15/16, 13:03

That's a good way to look at it. The way I've been looking at it is, if we're seeing all these people yelling about intersectionality, it's only because we're finally taking it seriously, and that's something.
Intersectional Feminism: What is it?
05/15/16, 13:02

"There are people who get off on non-stop malice"

One of the drawbacks to having ape instincts: our inner ape needs to not only be able to divide the world into Us vs. Them, it needs to ENJOY lashing out at Them to get really good at it. Which finds itself being twisted in weird ways in modern life, such as getting all "Power to the People!" against every oppressor real or imagined, and delighting in holding grudges. I find it's helpful to remember that much of what feels like it makes perfect sense is just buggy brain hardware.
Do You Want to Build a Snowman?
05/15/16, 11:28

First you complain when they wear cheap Elsa and Spiderman costumes, then you complain when they don't.
Intersectional Feminism: What is it?
05/15/16, 10:02

One of my favorite Samantha Bee bits from "The Daily Show" is her piece on bullying:

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/b6e4q1/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-raging-bully

CHS is interviewed, if briefly; she feels that kids aren't being bullied enough. I'm sure if, given enough time, she could construct a scholarly-sounding case for why bullying is good for all parties, but personally I'll pass.

If she were scheduled to speak at my college*, I might be persuaded to sign a petition requesting that her speaking engagement be canceled, and I might even hold a sign at a non-shouting protest (it would likely say something stupid like "We do not support her; the CHS stands alone"). But I would not try to shout her down because that's an attempt to intimidate and bully, which I could have sworn I was opposed to.


*: The only college I care to attend these days: Batman University.

http://www.batman.edu.tr/En
Intersectional Feminism: What is it?
05/15/16, 06:24

Bort got opinions. Things I notice:

1) As simon666 said above, the woman doesn't have too much to say about the theory itself, and is mostly going after loud idiots who may or may not understand the theory well, and who may or may not be representative of most people who subscribe to intersectionality.

2) Notice how it's always about college campuses and Tumblr. You know where it's never about? Anywhere that matters. If we were having problems with, say, North Carolina being TOO accommodating to the LGBT community, I would consider that a "good" problem.

3) The lady takes a dismissive tone of the theory when she mentions it, for example how being oppressed grants moral authority. Well that's not really it, it's more a matter of, if you're one of the people society shits on, you're going to have a much richer and deeper understanding of how the shit flows. I'm a straight white guy of Christian background, and I'm not just going to inherently understand what it's like to be black or Hispanic or a woman or LGBT; I might see some issues and read in the NYT about others, but if I want to know the real story, the best thing I can do is listen to those who have been on the receiving end. (I then of course have the option to believe them or not, but the burden remains on me to actually listen, rather than just wait until the other person stops talking so I can tell them they're wrong.)

4) Obligatory swipe at Bernie Sanders and his fan club: if I had a nickel for every time I've heard a Bernie supporter say "I will never understand why blacks support Hillary over Bernie" and I responded with a Let Me Google That For You link, I would be one of the hated 1%. But it illustrates the point nicely: blacks have good reason to see the world differently from whites, almost as if it's another country that looks superficially like (White) America. In which case we would do well to not be Ugly Americans in this other country. Here are some informative places:

http://www.verysmartbrothas.com/

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/3/1492931/-Why-black-voters-vote-the-way-they-do-and-advice-on-how-to-win-them

http://zuky.tumblr.com/post/903970904

http://rewire.news/ablc/2015/08/11/blacklivesmatter-hurt-feelings-white-progressives/

5) Wanting victim status is nothing new, and it's certainly not unique to intersectional feminism. The Tea Party is built on relatively well-off white people feeling like victims. The conservative movement since Reagan has been all about that, when you get right down to it. Hell, even the Religious Right formed as a reaction to being oppressed (where "being oppressed" means Bob Jones University losing its Title IX status because it insisted on practicing segregation).

6) I would bet anything that the intention of intersectional theory was never for people to say "hah, I'm a bigger victim than you, I WIN!" Dullards may take it that way, but it's more an attempt to understand a complex system and how it privileges some people in some ways, or rather, penalizes various groups in various ways.

7) I'm not fond of the term "white privilege" because it misses the point: what we straight white vaguely Christian guys get isn't "privilege", it's what EVERYONE should be getting. The problem isn't that cops aren't shooting enough white people, the problem is they're too trigger-happy when it comes to blacks. But I struggle to find a catchy term.
Intersectional Feminism: What is it?
05/15/16, 05:55

Simon is correct: the lady isn't addressing the theory itself, just taking a swipe at people who probably half-understand it at best and do stupid things with it.
Man Records Tornado That Destroys His Home/Kills Wife - 4/9/15
05/14/16, 21:22

I would have done a roundhouse kick and knocked the gun out of the tornado's hand.
Cunk on Shakespeare
05/14/16, 18:12

That's the part where I lost it.
Preparing for the poetv frienship gala
05/14/16, 11:14

Fields of Blood for Dracula!
My Trigglypuff encounter summed up in 5 seconds
05/14/16, 10:22

Yeah, that does sound too familiar: "well I can't have ____ but at least I can do this much for her". Looking back at when I was going through something similar, this was the "bargaining" stage.

YOU are the alpha male in your life. You may behave more like one in her presence, but she doesn't bring it out in you, you opt to show it. That's all you, bud!

Some of my most rewarding periods have been when I chose to be in no relationship. If you can feel complete outside of a relationship, that's a good place to be in sometimes.
Full historic U.S. Attorney General HB2 statement
05/14/16, 08:38

Yeah, whatever. I find members of the impossible-to-please Left to be completely interchangeable: you all seem to think there must be a perfect solution to every situation just waiting to be enacted, and if the Democrats don't happen to enact it, it's because they don't really give a shit.

It occurs to me that you might be trans and that's what you thought I meant by "you and yours". I don't know your personal deal, but whatever your situation happens to be, the fact remains that you'd get more happy days like this if you and yours (i.e. disaffected Lefties) would actually support the team that's trying to help you.

It's not about Obama / Hillary defensiveness, it's about wanting more good things to happen for the LGBT community, for First Nations, for blacks, for Hispanics, for coal miners, for every other group in this country that's been shat on. You get there by lending support, not by withholding it.
My Trigglypuff encounter summed up in 5 seconds
05/14/16, 08:23

Find some way to be physically repulsed by your friend; maybe ask her to film herself doing a Tubgirl thing. Once your brain can disentangle physical attraction and love for her as a person, you'll be good.

Failing that, Bort sez, this sounds like an unhealthy thing, you trying to push the two of them back together. You can probably do it, but it's not necessarily necessary for it to be your burden, and you'll pay a heavy emotional toll for it. Martyrs make for great fictional protagonists, but it's not a great way to live one's life.

Bort identifies too much, and wishes Bort could tell these things to Bort 1998. :-(
Full historic U.S. Attorney General HB2 statement
05/14/16, 00:59

"The administration in power has had, up to this point, absolutely nothing to do with it."

Well it's a pretty incredible fucking coincidence that these things tend to happen when Democrats have the power to make it happen, now isn't it.

"So kindly tone down your Obama/Hillary defensiveness defcon level directed at me down a little, yeah?"

Yeah, no. You and yours consider it a virtue to be cynical and even hostile towards the only team in town that's trying to help you. As Rahm Emmanuel so eloquently put it, doing so is "fucking retarded" -- was, is, and ever shall be.
Supergirl - First Look
05/13/16, 22:57

"Smallville" lasted for like a decade, with several seasons of the show having EVERY HERO IN THE DC UNIVERSE showing up to be heroes, except for Superman. That is so completely the opposite of a good approach to a Superman show. (I suspect "Smallville" ran into trouble by lasting more than two seasons, a victim of its own success.)
My Trigglypuff encounter summed up in 5 seconds
05/13/16, 22:54

For you, EH:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDjS-FeY6wc

Yes, it's Supergirl on a couch with a bunch of puppies.
Supergirl - First Look
05/13/16, 22:52

Dear Bort from exactly one year ago: trust me, you're going to love this show. You know how you are constantly frustrated that DC has trouble doing a Superman who cares about everyone no matter who they are, tries to bring out the best in people, and uses his powers creatively ... ? Not only does the show do all that, those are CORE THEMES of the show.

Also, search Youtube for "Melissa Benoist puppies". The video's probably not there yet, but trust me.
Supergirl - First Look
05/13/16, 22:49

Update: this show quickly got past the insecure bits and became damn good as superhero shows go. It's not Shakespeare, but one thing it gets very right (righter than any other show has) is how Supergirl does her thing simply because she wants to do good. She doesn't need dead relatives or guilt as motivation, she simply likes to help people.

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