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(NSFW) Prisoners Tortured in Syria
08/03/14, 22:47

The final solution is Edward Said's binational one-state solution, which is gaining popularity. How that actually comes to be is extremely complicated, and there are various forces at work to realize the model to their own ends.

As it is, two separate states seems unlikely for so, so many reasons.

Here's a start:

Do a land trade. There's areas around the Dead Sea that are almost entirely Palestinian but are in Israeli hands. Israeli settlements are penetrating into Palestinian land which is largely uninhabited by Palestinians.

Hamas must recognize the need for a Jewish homeland and that Israel has a right to exist. Israel must make reparations and assist with infrastructure projects in Palestine as well as address the 3rd class status of Palestinians in Israel starting with a constitutional amendment (they should actually start by writing a Constitution in general) that protects the rights of minorities.

These are just a few first steps.

Something I've been messing with for fun is how to provide fresh water using desal infrastructure to Jordan, Palestinian territories, and other areas as a means of rewarding peace agreements such as this. For the price we paid to go to war in Iraq we could have delivered continuous fresh water to everybody in Sinai, Jordan, Palestine, and much of Yemen. Water drives much of the animosity towards refugees across the Middle East. I think part of any union of Palestine and Israel will have to come attached to enormous amounts of international aid.

None of this is remotely possible as the secular aspects of Israel become ever more frail as they are surrounded by ever more terrifying spectacles (Yes, Syria and ISIS being in their front yard is kind of important to understand how Israelis are thinking right now). The current state of Israel and Palestine insures that a Palestine free state would be a fetid corrupt ghetto controlled by Islamists, and one-state solution would almost certainly entail an internationally funded massacre on all sides.
Israeli Drone Kills 8 Kids
08/03/14, 22:10

You are posting Israeli violence against Palestinians to irritate me?
(NSFW) Prisoners Tortured in Syria
08/03/14, 22:08

I am certainly not having a nervous breakdown.

I am laughing at you.
(NSFW) Prisoners Tortured in Syria
08/03/14, 22:07

I don't imply any of that, little SolRo.
(NSFW) Prisoners Tortured in Syria
08/03/14, 21:23

Very good! I'm making a point.
The History of Palestine in 10 minutes
08/03/14, 21:07

"baleen has made his authoritarianism abundantly clear in just about any police brutality video posted on POE"


You must have missed when I was posting all those brutality against the OWS videos because I don't know who the fuck you are and I don't care.
The History of Palestine in 10 minutes
08/03/14, 21:06

SolRo, you are a stupid person.
By attaching yourself wholeheartedly to the badness of Israel (and they are bad!) you do not make yourself smarter, does that make sense!
Israeli Drone Kills 8 Kids
08/03/14, 21:01

It really shows how much you care!
Israeli Drone Kills 8 Kids
08/03/14, 20:56

You are such a dong.
Israeli Drone Kills 8 Kids
08/03/14, 20:56

pm me
The History of Palestine in 10 minutes
08/02/14, 08:24

"That's what he genuinely believes is the source of the Arab-Israeli conflict in Palestine." No, that is not what I believe to be the source of the Arab-Israeli conflict.

SolRo, I've never said that there were not horrible Israelis but then you aren't very good at paying attention.

This is a selectively edited fluff piece and if you actually get your history from this, it just makes you look like an idiot.
The History of Palestine in 10 minutes
08/01/14, 17:34

I found 5 wrong things in 1 minute. Not too shabby.
How to make stromboli
08/01/14, 10:51

The Midwest.
Gummy Bears Bratwurst
08/01/14, 08:41

The Midwest.
'I can't believe you've done this'
08/01/14, 00:19

Not only a dupe but an almost universally revered meme.
Starving in Syria: Palestinian refugees die in rebel-held camp
07/31/14, 11:47

"The other problem is that the US actively blocks any UN attempts to bring peace that Israel doesn't approve of (see first problem)." Currently Obama is forcing a ceasefire that is pissing off even the doviest of Israelis. That should make you happy.

Are you suggesting that Hamas is a legitimate negotiator for the Palestinian people?

"For one, the US military aid is a good incentive for the Israeli military, hardliners and profiteers (often the same people) to keep tensions high in the region." That's true and is one of the side-effects of the old military industrial complex. What do you think would happen if we cut all aid to Turkey, Egypt and Israel? The USA is the largest contributor to UNRWA, by the way.

"If the UN were allowed to sanction Israel for war crimes" I'm sure that would be a piece of cake.
Starving in Syria: Palestinian refugees die in rebel-held camp
07/31/14, 11:42

Those "some reasons" are why I'm trolling.
Starving in Syria: Palestinian refugees die in rebel-held camp
07/31/14, 11:33

Thanks Hippo, those are very thoughtful words.
Starving in Syria: Palestinian refugees die in rebel-held camp
07/30/14, 13:23

1. Israel was founded on atrocity and sin, making the Zionist experiment a crime and its government illegitimate. The Holocaust is not a reason for the creation of Israel because Albert Einstein said something on Facebook about this.

2. We fund Israeli atrocities with billions yearly, which makes it entirely our business. It doesn't matter that we fund many other nations, causing far more damage to both Palestinians and the poor in general, this is the big one because Jews are up 10-0 and all they do is whine and make movies about Auschwitz so that they can give themselves Oscars anyway.

3. It is entirely appropriate to consider every Israeli a brainwashed Zionist militant just like the Nazis. Apartheid of Palestinians from Israeli culture is as bad as it was in South Africa.

4. It's more important to take sides on this issue than research how people are trying to solve it, because if you do that you start to actually understand why all this is happening, you have to listen to all sides of the story, humanize the people, and that's never any fun. You can't make friends at parties that way.
Starving in Syria: Palestinian refugees die in rebel-held camp
07/30/14, 13:11

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Using one atrocity in an attempt to silence critics of another atrocity is about the most cynical rhetorical move one can make."

I have no intention of SILENCING you, you dumb knob.
I just think there's a lot of turmoil fashionistas on here. SolRo, being an endless font of hilarity when it comes to this issue, has made some pseudo-intellectual allies without even having to try. That's how stupid this is.

I think absolutely nothing intelligent will come of posting Israel-Palestine war porn on here, other than a kind of "Look at me! Look at how I I'm on the right side of things in my general cliched left-of-center bland tribal unit."

I think overall the shit I've read from most posters here on Israel and Palestine have been simplistic, uninformed, and derived from mainly one source, which tends to be watered down Finkelstein and friends. You are as bland and as stupid as Fox News assholes screaming about Israel being our best allies and Muslims wanting to kill everyone.

What's there not to poke at? Again, your concern on this issue is entirely based on a kneejerk reaction to conservative and mainstream media. You don't really care, and I will continue making fun of it.

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