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Ever Dream of this Man?
10/26/13, 02:40

ooooh
Ever Dream of this Man?
10/25/13, 21:13

If this were real it would be no weirder than the "shadow figure" phenomenon among many of those who suffer from night terrors or bewildering mass hysterics like the koro phenomenon in Southeast Asia.
Ever Dream of this Man?
10/25/13, 19:01

I meant to say more likely to dream about it
Ever Dream of this Man?
10/25/13, 18:58

I figured it was viral marketing of some kind. The thing is, when you witness dreamy material on a subject about dreams, you're more willing to dream about it. It's an interesting idea.
Ever Dream of this Man?
10/25/13, 16:32

http://www.thisman.org
Benthelooney Rants: Teen Titans Go!
10/25/13, 08:05

I might enjoy seeing the spectacle of what this man does leading up to all of that womanizing.
wendyvainities provocative take on MLP
10/25/13, 08:01

Imagine if Wendy was your mom.
Gun Control In a Vacuum
10/24/13, 16:31

See, not really that much disagreement at all.
Unfortunately the gun fanatics control the debate on the right, and the reactionaries (and victims of gun violence) control the debate on the left, and never the twain shall meet.

As for Oregon law, "private party" is a pretty nebulous term, wouldn't you agree? This is why I am within my rights to go to Alberta Ave and get me a Glock, no questions asked.
Morton Downey Jr. intervews Tiny Tim in the mid 90s
10/24/13, 16:25

I believe this might be Morton's shortlived post-AA show.
It makes me so sad to see Tiny Tim completely fall apart in his older years. I have this feeling like a lot of horrible things happened to him or maybe he did something really awful to somebody and this is his way of dealing with it.
little kids are fuckin stupid
10/24/13, 13:32

ha!
Gun Control In a Vacuum
10/24/13, 09:04

Suppression of gun ownership in America is hopeless and would be likely ineffective.
Gun Control In a Vacuum
10/24/13, 08:52

Shut up Gmork.

From the FAQ:
"If you buy a gun from a licensed dealer in Oregon, a background check is performed by the Oregon State Police. At that time the make, model, caliber and serial number of the gun is recorded, along with all your personal information. In that sense, the gun has been “registered.” However, in private transfers, there is no such background check required, although you can conduct one voluntarily if you really think the State Police need your $10.00. This IS NOT required by law unless your transfer takes place at a “gun show.” So unless you have chosen to conduct the (entirely voluntary) background check, there is no “gun registration” in Oregon. If you move here with your own guns, or have acquired them from a private party in Oregon, there is no “registration” of any kind and no permits to own or transport. The only “permit” in Oregon is for concealed carry."

This is not really the point.
Let's reset this dialog, glasseye, since you are not Gmork and you aren't Freedoom.

Once more, I am not a strict gun control advocate.
I believe you should be able to play with whatever guns you want. My roommate has guns. Many of my friends hunt and shoot. My brother is rather heavily armed. I've never seen it, but I believe my dad has a .45 somewhere. These are people I love. I am well aware that guns can be ok in the hands of good people, and when used responsibly, they CAN protect people from certain situations, but that's the exception to the norm.

My issue is mostly with gun culture and what I see as gun fetishism. I am disgusted by the contrast of gun ownership with patriotism. I do not believe the 2nd Amendment necessarily permits one to wield everything that contains bullets anymore than it permits a person to hold private stores of sarin gas and nuclear warheads. I hate that people would hold a gun show anywhere near a place where horrible shootings recently occurred. I find it repulsive that when people have issues with crime the immediate reaction by many is to employ guns and the language of gun violence, as if this were necessarily going to solve the problem. I dislike the culture that likens gun possession with safety. I believe the statistical basis for likening gun density with increased security and lower crime is dubious, just as I believe gun control itself to be ineffectual at addressing the reasons why there is so much gun crime in the first place. I also believe that in carrying guns people will be more likely to settle disputes by employing guns, as opposed to doing pussy things like conflict evasion. I am aware of statistics where guns are used to "repel crime." For reasons I can discuss, I believe a lot of these statistics to be strained and misleading at best. According to the majority of legal cases involving gun usage where "self defense" was in play, I'm not far off the mark.

What would I like to see in gun legislation?

Universally mandated safety regulations requiring a gun safety class to be passed for the possession and use of pistols, shotguns and semi-automatic weapons, either recoil or gas operated. Safety classes would include proper handling, storage, securing weapons from thieves, and, like in driving courses, education about conflict resolution and "passive" as opposed to "aggressive" gun possession. It sounds really annoying. It should be annoying to get a device that can easily kill 10 people within a few minutes.

In keeping with automotive allegories, we should greatly increase funding and education efforts regarding the dangers of guns, the real life legal recourses for Charles Bronson syndrome (carrying a gun everywhere because you think you will save yourself or somebody from a crime), better home management education for containing firearms (so that ~175,000 of them aren't stolen every year), basic gun safety, the link between depression, gun access and increased suicide rates, and so on.

Mandated reporting of stolen firearms with severe fines when mandate is not met.

Full transparency and reporting on ammunition sales and gun transfers, private or otherwise.

Destruction of all weapons seized from criminals, as opposed to returning them to the public via auctions and so on. Not that this would reduce gun crime, I just find police selling weapons seized from criminals to be bad for business and self-defeating.

Increased funding for caring for those with mental illness, as well as outreach efforts for those who are isolated or suffering. This would require returning 6-7 billion in funding to these kinds of programs that have been whittled away since the early 80's.

Increased funding for a wide swathe of social programs that
have nothing to do with guns that might reduce gun violence but lay outside the jurisdiction of the topic of gun control and gun culture. Actually, this is the most important thing I can think of.
Ulillillia gets a job
10/24/13, 07:08

Stars for memedumpster.
little kids are fuckin stupid
10/24/13, 07:06

The neverending stale graham cracker bribes of youth.
tiny tim gets upset about jesus on howard stern
10/23/13, 18:49

You crazy mother.
Gun Control In a Vacuum
10/23/13, 18:38

Interestingly, nobody is talking about banning anything on here.
I am aware of the stupidity of the assault weapons ban and that Diane Feinstein probably isn't.

"Unfortunately most proposed gun legislation is neither rational nor effective." That's true. I wonder why gun legislation is never allowed to flourish in our culture in any form. I would venture to say people dwelling on the Brady Bill, a kneejerk and ineffectual piece of legislation that both caved to the gun lobby and was meant to succor the police unions, should perhaps come up with some kind of "rational" legislation themselves. It becomes hard when we get stand your ground.

You are completely wrong about how buying guns in Oregon works, I'm sorry to say. My roommate has a few .22's. He didn't need to do anything special to acquire them.
http://www.oregonfirearms.org/faq

Once again, I don't give a shit what kinds of guns you want to play with. I've posited some pretty basic forms of legislation that would probably be effectual, but let's face it, gun violence is a symptom of complex socioeconomic and cultural problems that can't be solved with bans. This doesn't mean you have to be stupid and think you're a patriot or vigilante guardian of justice by owning lots of guns. You like shooting things because it makes you feel good. I like playing poker.
Gun Control In a Vacuum
10/23/13, 16:18

Also, in the state of Oregon where I live, it is legal to buy guns off the street. There's a street in the NE where I can buy a gun from a guy, no questions asked, and it's totally legal. It varies greatly from state to state. It is also to buy .22's here without a permit. To buy any other gun here, you get a background check that takes a few days (they check for violent crimes), then the gun is yours. There's very little oversight of this whole process, and there never will be.
Gun Control In a Vacuum
10/23/13, 16:10

It should be noted that gun lovers don't care about being right in any debate sense. By virtue of them owning the gun and brandishing it, they "win." That's the power of guns, it takes away any need to actually know anything.

As freedoom said, he doesn't actually read anything.
Gun Control In a Vacuum
10/23/13, 16:08

I'm tired of posting statistics to angry gun people.
Until you can actually respond with any research that reinforces your positions in an intelligent way, you bring nothing to the table except the blathering of a shiny object fetishist.

Of course criminals go to gun shows and pawn shops.
There are hundreds of thousands of stolen guns that end u being sold "legitimately." These guns are stolen from people that own guns.

Gun control laws in places like Chicago are a result of desperation. They fail because guns can't be controlled in America any more than liquor could. Using guns for self defense is virtually unheard of in a legal sense. Pulling a gun on someone generally involves an escalation of some kind, in which case it's your fault for pulling the gun.

Keep watching movies and letting that inform your reality.
Gun Control In a Vacuum
10/23/13, 14:10

And half of the Autobahn has speed limits.
And getting into accidents, or, if the dipshit analogies from those Freedoom and this NRA idiot are to be taken seriously, usually means strong consequences for the right of the driver.


So there's really no insights to be gleaned from this moron, but it was pretty funny.

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