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Desc:Stop being emotional cowards and believe us already! We got PhDs!
Category:Religious, Horror
Tags:9/11, conspiracy, psychology, truthers
Submitted:Space Helicopter
Date:09/28/11
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Space Helicopter
ht tp://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2008/11/wac-job-murders-own-fat her.html (remove that space near the beginning)

Fran Shure sure does have a knack for hand-waving psychotic murder done by a fellow truther.
Space Helicopter
and the space near the end

deadpan
Five stars for the dawning horror I experienced as I realized which side of the issue these people are on.
Hooker
Yeah, the ambiguous title originally had me thinking they were people who treat truthers. It's pretty funny how their explainations work in both ways and it's only when they make concrete statements about their beliefs do you know which way they're arguing.

kingofthenothing
These guys sure are slick.

Also: is Boulder, CO this weird or is this just a bad grouping?
TheSupafly
I have a friend who is a research physicist working in Boulder now, and yes, he says its pretty weird there. He said once walking home in the middle of the night he saw completely independent from each other: a mostly naked man dancing by himself, a unicyclist using it as an actual means of travel, and two people having sex on top of a car. All in a short walk from the market.

Its a really nice place to live otherwise.

Oscar Wildcat
I was delighted to see that the Al Qaeda terrorist organization had today issued a press release excoriating Iranian President Ahmadinejad for blaming 911 on the Jews and America. They're pretty sure they did it, you know? Hilarious.
Riskbreaker
Hopefully they will cover gangstalking and vaccines in the future.
baleen
Well, this just further degrades my trust in psychiatrists.
dancingshadow
I've never been one for psychology, but because the math of 911 is so embarrassingly simple, I have enjoyed it as a hobby for the past 8 years.

I consider a lot of the posters on poe to be very intelligent. So it is especially fascinating to watch your minds tunnel around your own intellect; dodging obvious realities for the comfort of Michael Bay simplicity.

The McK
Examples, chuckles. You need to provide some before you'll be taken seriously. And by "taken seriously", I mean of course have your moonbat opinions exploded like so many carefully placed invisible demolition devices.

Feeding trolls, I know, but god DAMN do I hate the fuck out of truthers.

dancingshadow
Examples of what ?

Oscar Wildcat
A claim, DS. You need to make an actual concrete claim that we can discuss. True to your name, you dance around a lot but never actually claim anything. In this way, you can never be disproved. Intellectual cowardise of the first order.

StanleyPain
"dodging obvious realities"
If it were that obvious, more people would believe it. That sounds dismissive, but it's pretty common logic. If the only way people can convince themselves their position is right is to whip out gems like "it's obvious, but no one sees it because *insert lengthy rationalization*" then there are clearly massive problems with their side of the argument that can only be surmounted by faith and assumption, neither of which are particularly obvious realities.

You can also try the "you refuse to see the truth because X" argument, the deeper you go down this route you're going down, the more you sound like a fundie Christian trying to convince someone their delusional belief system is true.

dancingshadow
My claim is that the NIST explanation for the building collapses on 911 is impossible.

My argument is simple and is based on energy. I did my best to explain it in past videos.

dancingshadow
"If it were that obvious, more people would believe it."

Common Stanley... you're one of the smart ones.

Oscar Wildcat
Then bear with us, and explain it again right here in this thread.

dancingshadow
Oscar: or... I could play Ico

Riskbreaker
youallbeentrolled.jpg

Oscar Wildcat
You should. It'll take your mind off your problems.
Space Helicopter
I already know what your main argument is, dancingshadow: The top oprtion above the impact should have disintegrated before fully demolishing the entire lower section. I've read your posts before and that's the best summation I can get from everything you've said so far.

Do not call me a liar or mistaken. I am drunk. I will say what I damn well please without caution or shame.

If the presence of explosives was *obvious* then there would be no way to cover it up. It really is that simple, but to elaborate: There was a large swath of media and politicians after 9/11 that detested Bush and all his policies, and I pretty much agree with all of them now. None of the 'mainstream' (ie credible) media pushed these conspiracy theories. You know why? Because they were ridiculous. Before you even got to the science of the towers' collapses and the Pentagon and Shanksville, one would have to wonder why someone would go through the trouble and risk of wiring up the towers to explode (plus another that burned for hours and was evacuated and all the firemen said it was gonna collapse), hijack a Boeing then blip it out of existence and fire a missile instead and then shoot an airplane after you've already given a stand-down order and then blow up the whole frickin thing with lazer beams ARG i dunno what you believe or know but all of that is ridiculous and if you believe any of it you are ridiculous and I need this to be online instead of in my head THERE
Space Helicopter
oH YEAH i FORGOT WHAT i WAS SAYING: Once the collapse starts, each floor below the impact becomes part of the mass driving down on lower floors. Once one floor fails, it's pretty much guarunteed that the ones below also will.

Fuck you. good night.

The McK
Mmm yeah that's the stuff.

dancingshadow
5 for Space Helicopter. I respect a good drunken rant :)

SteamPoweredKleenex
And tomorrow he'll be sober, but you'll still be delusional because it's more comforting somehow. You really think it was some grand master plan to do what, exactly? Surveillance? That was already underway before 9/11. Conquest? Two failed wars is hardly "conquest." If anything, the so-called conspiracy benefited nobody except terrorist recruiters, except their was no conspiracy.

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