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Category:Business, Military
Tags:Cops, OWS, citibank, arrests
Submitted:baleen
Date:10/15/11
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Comment count is 47
baleen - 2011-10-15
Actually, they were locked in the bank and then arrested. What is the legal basis for a bank arresting their customers for trying to close their accounts?
Cena_mark - 2011-10-15
I think its because there's a difference between customers conducting legitimate business at a business establishment and mobbing it.

SteamPoweredKleenex - 2011-10-15
Overlooking the difference between actually offering a decent service and screwing over your customers to make up for executive mistakes should have no consequences whatsoever for our precious corporate snowflakes.

Actions have consequences, or at least, so conservatives say for little people.

Cena_mark - 2011-10-15
If they want to close their accounts so bad, there's a 1-800 number for it.

Anaxagoras - 2011-10-16
There are also corporate branches where they're supposed to be able to close their accounts.

If you need to hide from face-to-face encounters with corporate representatives, there's something seriously wrong with that corporation.

Cena_mark - 2011-10-16
These people will be allowed to close their accounts. They were arrested because the police told the protesters to keep their protest to the streets. They mobbed the bank and that's a private business. The bank told them to leave, but they refused. Hey idiots, your 1st Amendment rights end when you enter a business.

dairyqueenlatifah - 2011-10-16
Cena is 100% correct here.

Louis Armstrong - 2011-10-16
Except for that lady that was dragged back in.

Anaxagoras - 2011-10-16
And for the fact that they're actual fucking customers attempting to conduct a valid customer action.

But hey. Other than that, 100% correct.

dairyqueenlatifah - 2011-10-16
What is moral here is up for debate, but what is legal isn't. It's a private business; even if one person walked in and the business managers told them to leave, and they didn't, they were trespassing, and thus breaking the law.

These people, regardless of what their intention was, were asked to exit the business, and they didn't. That's why they're being arrested; for trespassing.

It may not seem fair, but it is legally and constitutionally sound here. No one's rights were being violated here, and if they wanted to close there accounts there are other ways, and in my humble opinion, far easier ways, to do it.

I'm by no means saying the bank is in the right here or that these people had ill intent, but when asked to leave, they should have left, especially at a bank.

Colonel Cowlung - 2011-10-16
dairyqueen, do you have any expertise in banking regulation? I'd be interested in knowing what, if anything, happens when a federally insured bank refuses customers access to their deposits, and when the various state/federal regulatory agencies become involved.

sosage - 2011-10-16
So what's the legality of a bank swallowing a woman back inside the premises against her will?

baleen - 2011-10-17
I'm cena mark. I dodged the war because I'm a pussy and joined the coast guard so that I could say I am in the military.. I manage supplies and a mop. I like to call myself a libertarian, but have no fucking idea what it means. It makes me feel important. I am a closeted faggot and I am a parasite on the American taxpayer. Maybe one day people will like me and I will make friends.

baleen - 2011-10-17
Actually, cena isn't right. You are allowed to close your bank account any time you want to. These were not protestors, they were customers.

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2011-10-17
You can close your accounts but don't actually come to our bank to do so! That would embarrass us!

Sounds like freedom ringing to me, Cena. Thank you for weighing in.

Those poor, shy, virgin bankers blushing with all the attention they are getting. Like schoolgirls from a farm in the 1800s, they simply assumed that locking people up was normal. Better to keep them safe from the prying eyes of those who would sully them!

Abstract Fainter - 2011-10-15
Look at all these violent hippies trying to impede the goodness of capitalism. Thank god officers Chubbs, Tubbs, Twobyfour, Roundy and Moundy had their justice sticks out as they arrived!
The Mothership - 2011-10-15
Um, did I just see an individual outside a bank forcibly taken inside a bank so that she could be arrested for being part of the protest inside the bank? Did I just see that? Stars reserved until I get confirmation that that's what I just fucking saw.
Ursa_minor - 2011-10-15
Yes, that is what you saw dude. That is what you fucking saw.

The Mothership - 2011-10-16
Thanks Ursa, I know you always got my back.

joelkazoo - 2011-10-16
Baisez la police!

split tail - 2011-10-15
May this become one of the many ropes they hang themselves with.
BOOSH - 2011-10-15
I guess the Invisible Hand of the market is a plainclothes NYPD officer
wtf japan - 2011-10-15
Nice.

memedumpster - 2011-10-15
Let that be a lesson to you. Next time you want to close your bank account, burn the fucking bank down.
rroach - 2011-10-15
Jesus Christ. How terrified do banks have to be of losing accounts to call the police?
SteamPoweredKleenex - 2011-10-15
You don't mean to say you think the money you deposit in the bank is actually YOURS, do you?

Cena_mark - 2011-10-16
Give me back my toppins, I want to feed the birds.

Cena_mark - 2011-10-16
rroach, yeah I'm sure the protesters who got arrested had money in Citibanks in the hundreds of dollars range!!!! Citibank would be fucked if they lost those accounts.

Ursa_minor - 2011-10-15
Looks like it's time for a "terrorist attack" to distract the national spotlight. Sigh.
Monkey Napoleon - 2011-10-15
Three stars for idiots who don't comprehend what protest and civil disobedience are, and two stars for being retarded enough to plan a stunt like this.
kingarthur - 2011-10-15
Wouldn't at least a somewhat violent strain of authoritarian socialism as a response to this sort of thing go down well right now?

Granted, i'm aware that violence will only serve as a rope with which the media will hang us if we do it, but man....
Mother_Puncher - 2011-10-15
Was that rope the cops had? Are they planning kidnapping them like a 1920s hostile takeover until they change their minds?
Nyms Lives! - 2011-10-16
Actually those were plastic cuffs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_handcuffs
Basically they're fancy zip ties used by police when they need to make mass arrests.

Hooker - 2011-10-16
I hate jumping on the orgy train of agreement, but wow does that look bad. Does anyone have any context for this?
Cena_mark - 2011-10-16
Idiot protesters decide to mob a bank to close their accounts to really stick it to the man. The bank asks them to leave as they do not like being mobbed by smelly protesters, and they involve the police. Sure it doesn't make the bank or the police look good, but with these protests its a lose lose situation. You can either let these idiots walk all over you or kick their asses.
The bank will allow them to close their accounts, but they're not going to serve a mob. Shit if all those guys close their accounts it'll probably mean a loss of hundreds of dollars to the bank.

Jet Bin Fever - 2011-10-16
Cena, even I know that you don't really believe the bullshit you spew. Stop playing devil's advocate and agree with us.
The use of police against protestors is -fundamentally- against the U.S. Constitution if they're peacefully organizing in a public place. And, if they enter into a business to do genuine business, it is ethically wrong for them to be arrested for trespassing. Until they start punching people or torching the place like in Rome, the police shouldn't be able to do a thing.

Cena_mark - 2011-10-16
I'm not playing devils advocate. They were mobbing the business plain and simple. The bank has business to handle and 20 something protesters enter to close their accounts all at once that's not business that's dragging the bank into your protest.

The police aren't being used against the protesters. The police are maintaining law and order, and when the protesters start mobbing business, blocking traffic, or breaking the law in other ways then the cops have to do their jobs and arrest folks.

Colonel Cowlung - 2011-10-16
Can you define what "mobbing the business" means?

Hooker - 2011-10-16
For future reference, when I ask people for something, what I'm saying is anyone-but-Cena.

Cena_mark - 2011-10-16
Booger, I gave you an appropriate answer. How am I wrong?

pvt Cowdung, By "mobbing the business" I mean they're using their force as a mob to disrupt business. If I came into the bank to close my account on my own that would be cool, but these came in an organized mass. This is just them wanting to stick it to the man.

split tail - 2011-10-16
I was with B of A before I moved to a credit union two years ago.

With B of A, more often than not, I had to wait in a long line [i.e. organized mass] to do my banking business. But NEVER, at any time did anyone yell "Mob! Get out!" and then call the police to 'handle' the crowd.

And to top it off Cena they locked the doors after the police arrived.

Cena_mark - 2011-10-17
They locked the door to help the police out. They didn't want the protesters to scramble upon the arrival of the authorities.

Colonel Cowlung - 2011-10-17
Where are you getting the information that they were disrupting the bank's business? I can't find any videos that start before the doors get locked.


misterbuns - 2011-10-16
Serena_Marxist works as a sock puppet when he is less obvious. Unless you guys just pass the account around, which I guess makes a lot of sense.
Cena_mark - 2011-10-17
That's right, because nobody could really feel the way I do about these protests. No one could ever REALLY disagree with the majority of posters here... get over yourselves.
misterbuns - 2011-10-17
see, this is what I'm talking about. The ellipsis gives away the whole thing.

chumbucket - 2011-10-17
While in lock up, they all got charged the .00 fee for paper statements.
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