Oh boy, Miller eventually finished the comic? I can only imagine the atrocious mess that thing is:
"YOU'RE IN GODAMN AMERICA, YOU SAND HEAD LUNATIC, AND I'M A GODAMN AMERICAN WHO IS GOING TO KICK YOUR UNHOLY GODAMN SAND ASS!"
I love Miller's work, damn the haters.
I hope this isn't the only discussion of it out there. Terrible!
I've seen it discussed on i09 (or was it Comic Alliance?).
I'm siding with you, because Frank is pretty fucking amazing. Although, like several big-time comic writers and artists, Frank has obvious mental problems.
I-Mockery did a wonderful in-depth review of his All Star Goddamn Batman and Goddamn Robin the Boy Goddamn Wonder series and a lovely look at Frank Miller's Robocop:
Remove the space that poeTV puts in.
P.S. Sun is worse than Fox. Jesus Christ that interview was cringe-worthy.
Without actually buying the book yet, all the discussion and reviews I've seen so far tells me Miller did miss the mark on this one. Although I get what he was trying to do, it seems he's got a bit lazy with his form, falling back on cliche and formats. That's not quite what I expect of his work, but really, it's one book out of many great ones. We'll see where he goes from here.
Frank Miller is one of those writers who really, really needs an editor. Actually just about all comic book writers do, but in Miller's case, he needs somebody to remind him that he's supposed to be writing comics that readers will think are good.
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That is a horrible horrible old fart of a man.
Holy Terror is so bad that DC said there was no way he could use Batman, so Miller just erased the bat ears and scribbled in a new logo. It doesn't matter anyway, since this is lazy late-period Frank Miller where the action is incomprehensible and the rest of the pages are just deformed talking heads yelling at each other.
Miller was always a bit rightwing and crazy, but I think 9-11 broke his brain.
Pretty much, i'm surprised he's not a regular guest in Fox News at this point. He went to the extreme right hard and he's never coming back. Even leaving aside his political beliefs, the man can't write anymore. His writting became 13 year old 101 nonesense pretty quickly.
I flipped through it when we got it at work (advance of street date shipments) and, yeah, it's pretty awful. See, thing is, though, never thought Miller was that great to begin with. I think he hit some good spots with Dark Knight Returns and some of Sin City, but I think Holy Terror is just the shittiest aspects of Miller condensed into a single comic.
Even better, before the book came out, our store got this video trailer for it that was awesomely terrible.
But are there whores?
And is that SunTV... like the Canadian company?
Yes. SunTV is basically the Canadian Fox News.
It's owned by the same company that also owns the Toronto Sun, who published this on their front page the day after the Liberal Party won a minority government in the recent Ontario provincial election:
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Between the painfully bad publicist and the cartoonishly horrible host, I kept forgetting that this wasn't a parody.
It's not a parody, right?
Alan Moore is still #1.
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Grant Morrison is #2. Miller sank somewhere to #63 after DK2
Still, he's an entire tier above Kevin Smith.
These days, I just want someone who can write a good comic. DC recently relaunched all their comics and did a reboot that undoes all other reboots (so not even CoIE happened), and a number of the titles are very much worth checking out. Among them:
- Action Comics (written by Morrison): a young Superman in the Golden Age mold of a guy who fights corrupts businessmen and politicians, and is not necessarily embraced by society. Clark Kent is very Peter Parker-y.
- Batman: there are multiple Batman-oriented titles, and the two worth checking out are "Batman" and "Batman and Robin". These days, Robin is Bruce Wayne's son by Talia (Ra's al-Ghul's daughter), and he's a little bastard in every sense of the word. While we're at it, "Nightwing" (Dick Grayson all grown up and superheroing on his own) is worth your time too.
I could go on about a bunch of other titles, but since we're talking about Batman, Morrison, and good writing, that much seemed germane. Well, one more thing. For once, "Wonder Woman" is pretty good: basically a latter-day heroine from Greek mythology, interacting with gods and fighting monsters.
Currently good comic writers would include Brian K. Vaughn (Y: The Last Man, Ex Machina) and Warren Ellis (Planetary, about a million other incredible things).
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"the Dark Knight Strikes Ageeeeen"
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The whole, awful thing. The commentary and cries of anguish helps it go down... but not by much.
This goatee'd douche claims that Miller resurrected the darker Batman from the campy 60's version, apparently completely unaware of Denny O'Neill and Neal Adams...
I have a hard time liking Neal Adams' stuff after I found out he believes that plate tectonics is a myth and has this cocked-up idea about the Earth expanding from within.
I think the continuum of Batman badassery goes something like this:
goofy Silver Age
O'Neill / Adams
While O'Neill / Adams did indeed return Batman to a shadowy figure, he was still routinely getting injured by thugs. Miller made him unstoppable except by superpowered aliens, and Morrison took away even that exception.
These days, the ability to harm Batman is essentially evidence of a superpower.
I dont want to live in a world were Northlanders gets cancelled but this is allowed to exist.
What, no love for Garth Ennis?
Wouldn't saying that he "pulled no punches" and "but, it threw quite a few actually." be redundant? Or am I misinterpreting that phrase?
You mean this isn't the Onion?
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