Cena_mark
Oh come on... What's wrong with loving our country and our military? Unless you hate them...

Old People
You know, this country:
Doesn't have a draft.
Doesn't do big military parades.
Hasn't used its massive nuclear arsenal since its inception, not even to break the stalemate in the Korean War or forestall defeat in Vietnam.
Keeps Russia and China at bay, and the sealanes secure.
Etc
You hate war; I do too. But I served in the Army because I believe that a good measure of the peace and tranquility the world now enjoys is due to American military primacy. Most of human history is a tedious record of war and related miseries; we live in an age when we are less likely to die by violence than at any period since the discovery of writing.
Having said all that, yeah, I agree that the movie does look like a jingoistic piece of crap.

Cena_mark
Old people gets these stars.

SolRo
Those things dropped on Japan must have been thermo nuclear hug bombs.

Keeps China and Russia at bay FROM WHAT? You twits said the same shit was the reason for Vietnam...and you lost...what demonic communist force rushed out and conquered the world? Hell, are you too dumb to notice you're sucking on Chinas' dick at this point?

If we're going to be making up shit about why the world isnt exploding in wars, I'm gonna say it's because of my magnificent giant penis. My penis is the phallus of peace!

And yeah, you fat americans are less likely to die beacuase you spend trillions on war and bomb weddings and funerals...but sucks if you're iraqi or afghani or african or south american or mexican or palastinian, etc, etc. But they're not white or american, so they aren't really human, right?

Craptabulous
My stars too, Old people. I'm very different in beliefs, and I reluctantly agree with most of your sentiment. While I don't think we should be world police, I do think that even defending ourselves with military is a form of peacebuilding and nationbuilding. Unfortunately we've been having to fight these wars on other peoples lands, for other people, and their interests. I respectfully say that I'm glad there are some people like you in the military.

TeenerTot
I too worship the Alpha-Omega. Now if you'll excuse me, I must reveal my innermost self unto my god.

Anaxagoras
Yes, this country:
Has used its nuclear arsenal. (as SolRo pointed out)
Consistently fetishizes military service and servicemen
Starts more wars (many of them unecessary) than you can shake a stick at
Easily falls back onto xenophobic and jingoistic rhetoric (See: The McCarthy years, the War on Terror, the ridiculous Domino theory)

I'm not particularly anti-soldier or even anti-war. But the strain of thought represented in this commercial is alive and well, especially among right-wingers. And it's sick.... not because all fighting is bad, but because it fails to acknowledge that fighting is a terrible, terrible option that always harms people. (both our people and foreign people who are, yes, people too.) This line of thought stokes our deep-rooted love of war & violence, often while cloaking it under a nauseating rhetorical veneer of FREEDOM.

In conclusion, fuck this country and the yahoos that support the unbridled militarization that this commercial represents.

Thank you, and please try the veal on your way out.

Old People
That's why I qualified the nukes statement with "since its inception".
As for the "fetishizing" of our military personnel, it's only skin deep. I don't know anyone who can name a single winner of the Medal of Honor. In a truly militarized state like Iran, that'd be the sort of thing kids would memorize in school.
SolRo, you continue to amaze.

SolRo
Because americans are too stupid to learn even basic history, much less remember specific medal recipients.

Plus, americans like to live in this dream-like state where their soldiers are immortal mythical beings rather than people that die, or come back crippled and mentally damaged. Just look at the rampant shitstorm of denial that comes up whenever the statistics of homeless veterans or post-deployment suicides come up.

And honestly that's the way your government likes it, because if you remembered them beyond 1 day a year you might stop liking send them to wars or spending trillions on to build the worlds biggest military cock to wave around.

America going pacifist is probably the thing that scares the pentagon more than china, russia, n korea and iran combined.

Kid Fenris
I'm a little surprised it wasn't born as some now-absent pro wrestler's attempt at breaking into movies.

Hammer Falls
Quite right. I got to see this whole movie at a convention. They trotted out the director (who said that it was supposed to initially be a recruitment video) and a guy they claimed was a former SEAL, If you break the movie into half hour increments, you'd have a crappy mini-series. Seriously, the movie progresses on each half-hour mark.

The Mothership
for real.

SolRo
Not if you're a recruiter or desk worker apperently

Cena_mark
Just another day for me.

SolRo
playing Call of Warfare Duty 6 while wasting taxpayer money?

Oscar Wildcat
He's just livin' the capitalist dream, dude. Don't be a hater.

Cena_mark
I'm not talking about playing videogames. I'm talking about laying down the law, shooting the bad guys, saving the world.

SolRo
...checking fishing permits, counting floatation vests, repressing homosexual urges, fantasizing about being a real man.

jimmicampkin
This conversation deserves some stars

Cena_mark
Don't worry, Hollywood is constantly putting out chick flicks and musicals for you.

Craptabulous
Maybe he wants to see it with you or something. Why would someone be that weird?

sosage
2014: Liberty of Morality

Vaidency
2015: Tits of Free Market Enterprise

Senator_Unger
2016: The Revenge of Ayn Rand

Senator_Unger
This is all Baleen's fault. WHY WON'T HE COME TO SAVE US FROM HIM?!?