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Desc:Psychology major wines about how college sucks. College sucks week.
Category:General Station
Tags:college, psychology, student debt, liberal arts, useless degree
Submitted:Scrotum H. Vainglorious
Date:05/13/12
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The Mothership
What did your psychology degree teach you about the empty nature of human greed?

something tells me this kid is still going to struggle even with a 2nd degree.
Jet Bin Fever
"The reason they pay zero is because those companies don't have a lot of money..."

What a moron. He really thinks these corporations couldn't afford to pay their slave labor?
Shoebox Joe
This is why I'm glad I dropped out and worked for a bit. I dropped out of college due to a nasty conflict of "Go to school or get the fuck out" while having a severly low self-esteem. I knew I wasn't interested in school enough to follow through. Got into Job Corp trade school for auto repair and found out a harsh lesson that comes straight from Aesop. No one gives a shit if you have completed every course. If you're not confident, competent or even remotely show those bits while working on a customer's car, then you're wasting yours and our time if the thousands they spend is gonna potentially be a slack job and just return to the shop (Even though maintenence never usually happens in one fell swoop) or lose your car forever/rake the cost of maintenence higher for the lifetime. That's when I got in touch with a mind numbing, monotonous job to finally come to terms where I really want to be. No where near a punch card like the rest of you drones, or at least any bit where everything becomes physically numbed and zoning out is no longer just a bit of being disgruntled.

P.S. see you suckers, I'm going back to college!

baleen
I don't blame people for whining. Are most of us old here? I would have whined too. I still whine. If you graduate into a recession (like I did), you're likely going to make far less than someone who graduated (even with a, GASP, liberal arts degree) in boom times.

So what do you have? Kids being told they need degrees to compete, then being told their degrees are worthless by everybody around them. Sure, everyone should become engineers, doctors, and petroleum industry specialists, but if everybody rushes into the careers that they are not fit for that suddenly seem valuable in a job market at a given time, you're just going to get a bunch of miserable people doing jobs they aren't good at, and you're going to see gluts and rigor in those markets too, eventually. Job training does not react to markets and labor fluctuations quickly.


The Career Effects of Graduating in a Recession
http://www.nber.org/digest/nov06/w12159.html

The Long-Term Labor Market Consequences of Graduating
from College in a Bad Economy
http://mba.yale.edu/faculty/pdf/kahn_longtermlabor.pdf

The Short- and Long-Term Career Effects of Graduating in a Recession
http://www.columbia.edu/~vw2112/papers/grad_recession_vonwacht er_oreopoulos_heisz_final.pdf
Raggamuffin
Wow, complete with a "further reading" list.

fourthguy
Shut up and take my stars.

Nikon
Well said.

badideasinaction
Having finished my undergrad and realizing the dot-com bubble was about to burst, the best thing I did was to go into grad school to wait it out a bit. By the next term all the people whose jobs had vanished in a puff of options were clawing at the door to get in, while I had a relatively easy time getting in since everyone was running to the coast for jobs at startups.

And yeah, programs were full of people who were learning to program for the bucks, and I even met some of them at my later job. The term for them quickly became "ex-employees", because they never really had the aptitude for it.

badideasinaction
Addendum: As a person with basically a second major in psyc, this guy must have missed the rather crucial psyc 101 lecture that I thought was standard - the one where they told everyone that unless you had a grad degree in psyc, you were not going to get a job with it. A masters might let you work with military and prisoners, but nothing short of a PhD is going to get you legit psyc work.

Rodents of Unusual Size
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Rodents of Unusual Size
Also, I finally got a job that pays me a living wage but I had to leave America to do it. Now I'm just wondering if I can ever find a job in America that doesn't involve fast food. I'm wondering if it will be feasible for me to come back. If my overseas experience will even mean anything to anyone.

Also, there are a million articles on Yahoo on job advice and how to choose the right career and degree and do all the things employers want in order to shape you into just the right peg wedged into a cold, merciless hole by the hammer of the job market, but there isn't one list on how to overthrow the people running our country and destroying the power banks and corporations have over the government, which I find odd!

baleen
This kid's big mistake is in talking about money. You really shouldn't get into medicine of any kind just to make money. He could get into social work very easily, and those jobs are extremely stressful, and they don't pay much, but there are lots of them out there. The kid's problem is with his character, not his degree.

Bootymarch
As you were jotting down those studies thousands of college kids whined about having to cite sources

Macho Nacho
College sucks week is hitting close to home for me. Right now I'm about to finish my degree that happens to be liberal arts (Anthropology). I am going to do an internship that focuses mainly on museum management this summer and I might end up working in the non-profit sector because I have some experience there.
I have to say though, I know someone who has a psych degree and they work at a mental hospital, but they do more data administration work.
dead_cat
I had to drop out for a very long time there because of multiple severe health issues, and now that things are starting to die down, and the odds of my dying real soon are going down, I have no fucking clue where to go from where I am.

I suppose it is perhaps slightly comforting to know that I'd probably be in the same position I am now-- and in the same boat as this poor guy-- even if none of that shit had ever happened.
The Mothership
that sounds scary, yo. One of my undergraduate students is going through a similar thing, possible brain tumor.

oswaldtheluckyrabbit
It's not about majoring in what you "love". It's not about majoring in what will make you money. It's about majoring in what you are good at--or, better than 95% of the rest of the public at. That, and working your ass off and taking every internship available, no matter how shitty they might be.
baleen
That's fine if you are getting money from your parents or a trust fund or you have a nice savings, or a big loan or fellowship, or lots of credit.

Most people have to work an internship and have a job at the same time. The power brokers in any given industry are more likely to give an internship to someone who will work 40-50 hours a week (or more, like I did when I worked in TV/film, because I had money at the time) for pennies than to someone who will work 20 hours a week while having a part or full time job on the side.

And hence the class struggle continues, only the names have been changed to protect the guilty.

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