no. stop looking at wierd porn sites without good AV/malware protection.

No, and I even have my ad-blocking turned off for this site.

None here. The popups are coming from inside the house!

welp, thanks anyway

None, ever. Download Spybot: Search and Destroy, let it scan and then delete whatever you have infecting your browser or whatever adware got into your machine.

Spybot S&D is free, and I don't work for them or anything. I'd bet money you have a browser helper object (BHO) manifesting the popups.

if anyone reads this, i found the culprit....firefox add-on called ""Flash Loader initial.rev64 by christiandavid" Nasty bit of kit!

it's sad that they claim what they do is science

There are times when I wonder if the equating fairy tales with science is just their way of projecting their world view.

To use a computer equivalent, a lot of Apple fans venerate Steve Jobs. They can't think of any other way to relate to their computer of choice. That is, if you like Apple, you generally like Steve Jobs. Therefore, they thought, PC users must venerate Bill Gates the same way. This could be attacked, since Gates is/was an embodiment of all that (to the Apple user) is evil in relation to computers. Same for Linux and Torvalds, to a degree.

For Christians and other god-botherers, their holy book is (without a lot of examination) the manual to the universe and infallible, and to actually buy into that idea takes loads of faith. Science must be, in their view, the same; all writings labeled as "science" are part of their opponents' holy text, so any obvious flaws (like Piltdown Man) obviously result in this doctrine called "science" being false.

They surely have plenty of liars in their camp, but I think a lot of it is this narrow worldview that can't see any other way of relating to anything apart from their own.

Oh, fuck. Jonah Goldberg didn't invent bullshitting.

I had a long Facebook faceoff with an ID guy who clearly did not understand science but chose to circulate a couple peer-reviewed articles from questionable journals that are now being hailed as the silver bullet in the side of evolution.

If you go to the DI's page you can see some of the articles I'm talking about. They are exercises in logical fallacies, and it's disgraceful that they were allowed into actual journals.

"We need to have a panel show where scientists discuss creationism."

No we don't. These people cannot be convinced of anything, they are twisting science to fit into the square peg of their respective faiths. There's no Scopes Monkey Trial potential here. The actual science behind the origin of life hypotheses are so complicated that they can easily be twisted around and can dupe anybody that doesn't quite get it.

At this point it's like a bunch of guys who have learned how to speak a few words of latin who are just reciting various fancy latin words to a bunch of illiterate people who think the act of speaking latin makes one the Pope.

These people can be convinced of quite a bit or they wouldn't be creationists. The only people selling something are the creationists. I'm all for truth, but I don't think it's lying to sell somebody something you don't personally want to buy.

Why can't we fight this war on their turf? Why can't we take it to them? It doesn't fucking matter that evolution is complicated. Creationism isn't Evolution, and it's pretty fucking simple to understand. We don't need to convince them of evolution, we just need to convince them that creationism is dumb, which is a fuckton easier. Really, we don't even need to do that, we just need to convince them that a version of creationism incompatible with religion is better than their current version. At that point, they'll lose interest.

Blue,

They won't fight fair. They will lie. They will cheat. Nothing will convince them.

You cannot rationally argue with someone that is irrational. Plus, the millions of irrational people that will see this will think they've won.

In other news, teaching evolution was just banned from South Korean textbooks. Kind of just slipped that in the legislation.

Becoming blatant retards is part of their historic push to re-unite with the North.