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Desc:Signs of things to come.
Category:Crime, Accidents & Explosions
Tags:Riot, poverty, welfare, depression, housing
Submitted:baleen
Date:06/17/12
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baleen
30,000 people.
Preybyemail
30,000 People who are there for free rent. I work two jobs, both of which are taxed, and some of that money goes to paying rent for young, healthy people.

Free rent. Really. I work twelve hours a day to cover my bills and support my family and these assholes riot for FREE FUCKING RENT from the government.

Did they not have access to the same public education that i did? Do they not have a chance at all the grants and loans for secondary education? If not more because they are minorities?

No sympathy, regardless of what color they are.

Hooker
I'm going to pre-emptively ask people not to take Preybyemail's bait. Please just ignore him.

dairyqueenlatifah
I'm won't take his bait, but I'll echo his sentiment.

There are definitely people who need this assistance, but the vast majority of the people you see in this video are able bodied people who don't.

I run two small businesses, both of which combined give me just enough money to live comfortably. I end up working minimum 70 hours a week when all's said and done. Naturally, the government taxes the shit out of the money I work for, and a portion of it is going to these lazy, unaspiring, ungrateful jackasses.

And before you make assumptions about me,

-No, I'm not white
-No, I'm not from a wealthy background
-No, nothing was handed to me

I am the product of a poor, mixed race couple of drug addicts, who grew up part of my life just on the edge of a ghetto where gang activity, drug dealing, and gun violence was rampant, then part of it in sleazy motels, part of it homeless/in a car, and the latter part in foster care. When I turned 18 I had no money, no car, and no one willing to help me, and nothing more than a high school diploma from public education.

Take me for what you will. I refuse, absolutely refuse to accept that the young people in this video, with nothing wrong with them, deserve to be given free rent, and then FUCKING COMPLAIN about how they're getting it, and I don't feel a bit of sympathy.

And this is nothing new. Shit like this happens at these things all the time, and has been for years. Good riddance.

StanleyPain
You really shouldn't be "echoing" the sentiment of a troll whose last major contribution to this site was calling everyone "faggots", "queers" and "pussies."

dairyqueenlatifah
Fair enough. I didn't see that comment before I said that.

Still, fuck 90% of the people in this video.

Dr Robot
Lots of anecdotal evidence here. How about we tax the wealthiest 1% at a significantly higher rate? Because the frustration these guys are expressing here is how the wealthy manipulate them into voting to lower taxes on them even more, although that's why you end up getting taxed MORE.

So just remember that. When you tell stories about how no one gave you a free ride and you've had to work very hard, end it with, "so let's tax the wealthy, like Mitt Romney, who pays a lower percentage in taxes than any small business owner."

samstein
I would like to also echo the sentiments of the preybymail and dairyqueenlatifah. You are kidding yourself, if you think this crowd of 30,000 is full of hard working citizens who are down on their luck.

I am saying this as someone who directly benefits from section 8. I own some duplexes and the renters are on section 8. It provides steady income, but it is not worth it due to the amount of damage and neglect the renters cause. I try to avoid renting to anyone who is on any sort of government assistance because they are simply lazy, irresponsible, and have no respect for the property. The few that I have were inherited. Their irresponsibility has nothing to do with the tax rate of the top 1%. The folks that work and pay their own rent do not cause the damage and neglect.

fractured
You guys don't get how capitalism works.

memedumpster
The universe is so crushingly fair that it's not going to care when you complain about other peoples' lives either.

Cheese
So you went to public school, enrolled in foster care but no one ever helped you, eh?

My family rents two houses to section 8 folks, and try are the sweetest folks ever. One is going to nursing school the other just joined the military rather then go to college on a football scholarship.

Mister Yuck
And I work at CVS and nearly all my coworkers are on some kind of public welfare. Fuck you pricks. I don't care about your sob story, if you're making it now you're lucky. You may have worked your ass off, and you definitely deserve it, but you're still lucky. So pay your taxes, thank God you're making it, and try not to ruin what little safety net we have left before you land in it.

jangbones
Think how many people will watch this and only think of race and how much they hate people that are different than they are.

Blaming race will stop any thoughts about financial deregulation, tax cuts, wealth inequality, cuts in social services, economic crimes, and incredibly expensive, neverending wars.
SteamPoweredKleenex
What's really sickening is the way the monied interests have this all lined up with their moronic voter supporters who would gladly piss away their own middle class lives if it meant they somehow thought the policies would hurt whoever they hated.

Let's presume we stopped all of the wars in an instant. We now have all that spending which COULD be put to services that would lift up the lowest, helping to maintain and eventually boost the economy. The wealthy/powerful/1%/whatever would cry, "oh, but those services cost money! Cuts! Cuts!"

Then those services fail because they can't operate effectively.

"See? We said social spending would never work! Kill it completely! Yay!"

Preybyemail
Umm, I dont see any white people. Kind of speaks for itself.

baleen
The majority of welfare goes to rural whites, so how could they amass such a large group at one office? Besides, it comes easy to them because white Republicans from the South have become experts at giving their white conservative flock welfare checks in various forms while convincing them that they are victims and that they deserve. The victim psychology of your average inbred preybyemail type is systemic in the conservative parts of America. White conservatives are horribly disorganized, as we know, unless they're having a BBQ or shooting things together and having closet gay sex in the marines.

White conservatives are generally obese and sit around collecting medicare and then proclaiming that they're Ron Paul supporters. We've come to expect that from them I guess.

Preybyemail, how much welfare are you getting right now? Just curious.

http://open.salon.com/blog/martinhill/2012/02/20/conservatives _snapping_at_the_hand_that_feeds_them

jangbones
I am pretty sure that the race of the people involved matters less than financial deregulation, tax cuts, wealth inequality, cuts in social services, economic crimes, and incredibly expensive, neverending wars

But you knew that already

Preybyemail
Alright mr. Fucking smarty pants, i hate those cocksuckers too. I hate fundies, liberals, darkies, immigrants, faggots, pussies, yuppies, suburbanites, your mom, low class people, white trash, those who suck the government tit, pansies who white knight any or the above, but most of all you.

Wanna put me in some box? Think because i can see those niggers abusing the system im one of those dumb old conservitives you like to get on the internet and pretend to be better than? Fuck you and all the rest of the limp wristed ninnies that clog these here internet tubes.

wtf japan
Who do you like, prey? Who's alright in your book?

baleen
Holy shit preybyemail, I could cut your next welfare check with that edginess.

jangbones
this is now the most exciting thing to happen to bonews in months

Preybyemail
People who are humble. People who work hard. Poeple who dont lie, cheat or steal to get ahead. Poeple who value family and tradition. People who understand the value of a life you worked hard to build yourself.

Want to suck a dick dude? Go suck one. Dont have a parade so my kid get to see that modern day dick suckin is oooooooo k. Do i get a parade for fucking my wife? No we keep our sex life discrete, we dont make a fucking tv show about it and get a law passed that says if you kick my ass its a wife fucking hate crime.

Get a job. If thats not enough get two. For every 80 year old cancer patient, there were dozens of able bodied young adults there. Riot for free rent and your black? Your a nigger. Do it and your white? White trash. I dont have a lick of concern for either. Try to take my shit? I will kill you.

Are you political? Do you think your corporate financed liar is more noble than the other dudes corporate financed liar? Tell me how much better you are?

So many things make me sick to death of this whole goddamned planet. You sissies on poe dont make anything better. This place is an echo chamber where you can all circle jerk each other off, and condescend to anyone who doesnt fit you skewed world view.

baleen
Hahahaha you're a fucking moron. I love you.

Preybyemail
Thank god, at least im not you. Cunt.

Adham Nu'man
Does anyone else keep hearing what sounds like a cow farting? Oh, it's that guy there? Prey, you sound like a cow farting, get it checked.

SteamPoweredKleenex
"People who are humble. People who work hard. Poeple who dont lie, cheat or steal to get ahead. Poeple who value family and tradition. People who understand the value of a life you worked hard to build yourself. "

So pretty much nobody in the 1%. These guys are skating by on more corporate welfare and far lower tax rates for their income (which they call "capital gains," which is bullshit) that they pretty much bought via their congressional ties, costing you more than all the people you hate combined. Not to mention they get tax breaks for sending jobs overseas, and they get bailed out when playing video poker with the stock market. They've also managed to trick people earning far less than 50k a year that if we lower their taxes even MORE and cut even MORE services, they'll finally have low enough taxes (which are currently on the 40th year of a downward slope) to "create jobs." And you keep claiming it's true in spite of real wages for the middle class dropping every single fucking year.

"Get a job. If thats not enough get two."

Oh, of course. Since minimum wage jobs offer salaries below the poverty line and there aren't enough of those to go around, either. It's so simple. Thanks for clearing it up for us.

American Standard
Hee hee. Never change, Preybymail.

Rodents of Unusual Size
This is why I love POE TV.

memedumpster
Thousands of children die every day around the world because of the shitty state of global inequality. When Americans start getting their fair share of these child deaths, shit will change. If you suddenly have no children to feed, you wont have to skip too many meals to buy a shotgun.
Preybyemail
You should be our shining beacon of hope, and donate every cent of your paycheck to a twenty something adult with no disabilities other than being black. Obviously things need to change right? Shaniqua there needs your money you worked for so she can sit on her ass and have babies. Come on man, the new era starts with you.

baleen
So who were you before you were banned?

Hooker
My suspicions are that he's Billy Buttsex or one of the angry and humourless people from Bo.

Preybyemail
I have been lurking poe since red. Maybe 97-98.

I really enjoyed the offbeat content and the whole prime directive / zoo exhibit thing. I never really read the forums. I ended up being a daily user since then.

I started reading the forums here and there for the different posts. Lots of smart asses. Lots of people with superiority complexes. Most of the posters struck me as snotty condescending assholes. Most of the posts seemed pretty mean spirited or skewed with a nasty left leaning smugness. The typical liberal "If you dont see it like i do, im just better than you and your stupid". After a while i just stopped clicking forum links. Problem solved

Poetv came out, while red slowly stopped updating. Kind of sad, but for a video site i still saw alot of the underbelly of the internet type stuff. But now the forums are right under the videos. Everytime i watch a fucked up video, there is the whiny white liberal bullshit right up under the content. Keep in mind, i hate conservatives, and most everyone in the American political system as well.

Rage has slowly built up, video after video until i can no longer stand it. Call me stupid. Call me retarded. Call me a moron. I just want ALL of you to know, the rest of the world doesnt share your opinions. We arent going away, no matter how much you close your eyes and stamp your petite feet. Its a nasty shitty world, everyone hates everyone and all the whining in the internet about how we should be more progressive is not going to change a thing. White knighting a black person on the internet isnt going to make the dudes in the projects not want to kill you. Talking about how repressive the Patriarchy is, is not going to land you that chick who doesnt shave her pits in your modern feminism class in college. Championing gay rights on a fucking video site is not going to get that twink to lick your hairy ass.

Im not an alt. Im not some twat you offended who has come back under another screen name. Thats my story.

riedquat
'sup BBBS

Hooker
Definitely from Bo.

jangbones
I just got an e-mail from a dummy account that was like "haha you poetv idiots just got trolled so hard you are so stupid and thin skinned..." I don't know, I only skimmed it. The sadness is overwhelming.

NewHeavenSalesman
billy buttsex is probably the best guess, with a dark horse on gritty nwo feyd

riedquat
Could be 'gurts, the 97-98 detail sounds like his sort of schtick.

Hooker
Yeah. I'm shakey on the Buttsex one. I spent more time than I should have responding to Billy, and while the tenor of what's said is largely the same, the diction is different. This guy seems less youthful and less interested in sounding authentic.

A PoeN refugee is my best guess.

CornOnTheCabre
ITS BALEEN GUYS HIS QUESTION WAS JUST A LAZY MISDIRECT

glasseye
YOU'RE != YOUR

baleen
Basically preybyemail, you were and are a nobody. You want desperately to be somebody, but you're not, so you hate everybody.

If you were me, you'd be fucking amazing.
You would make people happy.
You'd not only WORK YOUR ASS OFF but actually have interesting stories to tell.

You'd be an interesting person.

But you are not an interesting person, preybyemail. You are a boring, worthless person, aren't you? Completely worthless and boring. If you can somehow prove me wrong, I'll eat a hat.

memedumpster
I never thought I'd smell fear over the Internet, but I'll be damned, here comes PreyByeMail. For some reason, it smells like Dr Pepper lip smackers.

Cheese
Chet.

Hooker
I thought this was going to be an Onion piece. D:
cognitivedissonance
No bread, no circuses, no empire.
Paracelsus
What really sucks is that there are valid and urgent questions here about the social safety net and its extent, its purpose and the data of its results...but those things get lost in the shouting about race.
Fezren
Disreguarding the above fagdance.

Despite the percentage of people anyone might think deserves welfare and section 8 housing, this clusterfuck happened simply because they were handing out applications, and the planning behind it was incompetant to a near criminal level.

Tell me, whose bright idea it was to try and hand out applications to everyone on the same day? Yes, obviously there are able-bodied people in the crowd, but also those who are disabled. Whose idea was it to have a bunch of disabled people stand in line all day in the hot Atlanta sun in the middle of June?

Everyone should get a chance to apply for welfare and housing if they think they qualify for it. It isn't up to you or me to decide if they should get welfare or housing.

Image if they told you that everyone in your state had a single day to stand in line outside in the hot sun to obtain forms necessary to renew your driver's license. You'd be pretty fucking pissed about that wouldn't you? Not to mention the fact that when applied to welfare and housing, something necessary for people with disabilities, it creates a conservative-view catch-22 situation. What, you can stand all day in a huge crowd in the hot summer sun? Well I guess that means you're able-bodied enough to work right? If you were really disabled you wouldn't have been able to endure it.

Idiots and bigots will obviously bring up issues of race, but the fact that is shooting over their heads is that these are the same people all over the country applying for the same welfare and housing. Obviously in Atlanta they are mostly poor black people, but if they tried to pull this rediculous bullshit in Ohio it would be mostly white people.
Ryo-Cokey
So obviously, lazy/incompetent public sector workers are to blame.

Fezren
The blame for this riot does fall directly on the shoulders of whoever created the policy and whoever reviewed the policy and let it be put into action, who are public sector workers.

Not all public sector workers in general, but the administrators who thought it would be a great idea to save money by just rounding up all the poor people on a hot day in June instead of letting them visit a welfare office at their own discretion like they do it everywhere else in the US.

muffinbutt
I can't think of a single reason they couldn't make the form available on a government site to print at home or a public library. Let those who can't do that show up and stand in line. This doesn't make any fucking sense.

cognitivedissonance
I actually smell a rat here... somebody somewhere with an axe to grind might have set up a kink in the pipe as it were, and then made sure the cameras were placed. This is a little too clean.

Jet Bin Fever
People need to help people, no matter their circumstance. When you start limiting your ability to help others you become less of a human being. I'm not young or naive, and I know what it's like to work. I also know what it's like to not be able to work. I can't and won't judge any of these people.
Hooker
I can do this in less:

The whole fucking point of a society is collective responsibility. If you want total individual liberty, get the fuck out of our society.

cognitivedissonance
The problem with the "unlimited person liberty" ethos they have is they want it AND unlimited market growth, which are mutually exclusive. What they WANT, and don't dare state it as such, is a mafia kleptocracy.

Nikon
I like JBF's statement.

CornOnTheCabre
I like Hooker's statement. You cannot simply dehumanize anyone who doesn't want to play the role you would have them play, that's just oppression.

but if you want freedom, then go be free. and stop eating all our shit and chewing up all our roads.

Cherry Pop Culture
The global youth unemployment rate is 40%. It's hard for me and my friends to find jobs here in California. I wouldn't be surprised if any of the people clamoring for Section 8 are desperate and at the end of their ropes.

We all need to come together and watch over each other. Not everyone wants to hear that, but I am not talking to those people. Won't you be my neighbor?
Scrotum H. Vainglorious
Why don't they just join the Coast Guard?
Rodents of Unusual Size
Playing Devil's Advocate for a moment here...

As much as I want to believe we should help everyone, because money doesn't often go to people that deserve it, I also have the experience of being raised in dirt poverty.

The one time we lived in an apartment, which my mother got from Section 8, I was six, and she also ruined it by violently threatening our neighbors, punching holes in the wall, getting drunk constantly and fighting with my alcoholic stepfather, letting insects take over the kitchen, and explaining to me that she had a disease and complaining to me that she deserved to have a house with a pool growing up, but her horrible mother wouldn't get her one, like all the richer kids in her neighborhood had.

Some people are selfish, stupid, self entitled idiots who don't deserve a dime.

Now, how to separate those from the people out there who are genuinely trying to make it in an imploded and slippery economy with rampantly decreasing real wages for those lucky enough to even get jobs? Beats the hell out of me. But I think we should cut the cord for those that don't even make an attempt.
Old_Zircon
So do you think you and your family would have been better off at the time without getting Section 8?

heyitslozeau
im glad we found a video to make us devolve into youtube commenters.
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