urbanelf - 2012-06-19
On behalf of all Americans, let me be the first to say CHING CHONG PING PONG!
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riedquat - 2012-06-19 Eat my shit you fucking racist scum
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Cena_mark - 2012-06-19 He wasn't being racist you uptight Pee-quat! "Ching Chong ping pong" Roughly translates to "Congratulations on your scientific discoveries. It is a proud moment for your nation."
Know what you're actually talking about before accusing somebody of racism.
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SteamPoweredKleenex - 2012-06-19
So are there conspiracy nuts that claim the Chinese space program is faked like the Apollo moon landings?
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Caminante Nocturno - 2012-06-19
Now you've done it, urbanelf!
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Cena_mark - 2012-06-19
Well goddammit! If we're not going to be pushing the limits of space exploration then somebody has to.
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Menudo con queso - 2012-06-19 Limits schmimits. Their first woman astronaut? Pssht. We BLEW UP a female teacher over a quarter century ago and were making Christa Macaulliffe jokes while they were still coming out of PTSD from the Cultural Revolution.
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Raggamuffin - 2012-06-19
Oh shit they are going for a space victory!
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THA SUGAH RAIN - 2012-06-19
Call me when they land on the moon.
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Cena_mark - 2012-06-19 As bad as our space program is right now, they're still 40 years too late.
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Caminante Nocturno - 2012-06-19 Libertarians have no right to brag about this country's achievements, seeing as how they are largely responsible for making further such achievements impossible.
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Cena_mark - 2012-06-19 Libertarians can appreciate the space program as libertarians are responsible for America going to the moon. Who built NASA? Who got us to the moon? Individuals with individual rights working hard, studying, researching, and doing all it took to get us there. Individuals like JFK, Neal Armstrong, and Chuck Yeager.
Was China going to space in the 60s? Of course not. They didn't have individual rights. They didn't have the freedom to make space travel happen.
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STABFACE - 2012-06-19 ^^^This^^^ is the most hilarious thing I've read in a long time.
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Cena_mark - 2012-06-19 Granted the space program its self was a government program and the Astronauts mainly coming from the military (The present commander of the Space Station is a USCG Captain) aviation was mainly pioneered by the private sector. The Wright Brothers, Charles Lindbergh, and Howard Hughes all accomplished greatness in aviation all thanks to their private sector motivations. (Except for the first trans-Atlantic flight, which was achieved by a Coast Guard pilot.)
The private sector made the greatest leaps and bounds in the field of aviation. It wasn't until capitalism itself was threatened by communism that the government had to step in and take the Russians on head to head. By beating Russia in the space race we proved that free capitalist societies are superior.
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SteamPoweredKleenex - 2012-06-19 "Individuals with individual rights working hard, studying, researching, and doing all it took to get us there."
All using government programs to afford that education, researching with government grants, being paid by government contracts, at the behest and directive of the government via a government agency, NASA.
They weren't working in a sweatshop, but Libertarian philosophy didn't even launch the first satellites. Sorry, Cena.
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Caminante Nocturno - 2012-06-20 Right now I feel like Eddie the Head on the cover art for Iron Maiden's "Number of the Beast."
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memedumpster - 2012-06-19
Goddammit, can't we just be happy for these people without American Butthurt spewing froth all over the place?
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hughmanatee - 2012-06-19 Santorum Backlash Against China's Shenzou 9 Mission.
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Jet Bin Fever - 2012-06-19
Competition with the USSR is what got us to push the first space race, and I can only hope that competition with China will end up fueling a second space race as well. It's about the only goddamn cool thing left to do as a nation.
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Cena_mark - 2012-06-19 Competition, which is a capitalist concept will make us better.
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Cena_mark - 2012-06-19 Its funny that countries competing against each other could possibly lead to more advancement than countries working together. It'll be like the people's interest in wrestling during the Monday Night Wars compared to now.
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SteamPoweredKleenex - 2012-06-19 The problem with the US/USSR competition was that it allowed for things like McCarthyism, the lies about "the missile gap," defense spending the likes of which wasn't seen until Iraq II and Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, and countless other wasteful, if not criminal, activities all done under the blanket of "defending America against Communism."
It's like saying the economy prospered under the Hatfields and McCoys because most people owned gun stores.
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SolRo - 2012-06-19 spending resources leads to advancement. that's it.
if you can lie to your country enough that they'll be willing to outspend anyone else to stay safe, then that will lead to more advancement.
if the country is smart enough to work with one or more other countries and their combined investment is more than yours, they will produce more advances.
Think the only advantage capitalism has is that it can print more money and has a higher credit limit.
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SteamPoweredKleenex - 2012-06-19 Except after you "win," you're still stuck with this giant military-industrial complex that demands (and gets) more and more money, in spite of the "threat" no longer existing. Then you've got the added expense of combat with people you'd been arming for decades solely on the basis that they were "against" your enemy.
Advancements are all well and good, but much like our subsidizing the oil industry, it's hard to definitively show we've broken even on blood, treasure, and security, much less come out ahead.
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