|chairsforcheap - 2012-06-24 |
we have done well in this society to breed litters of sadistic humans from birth
|Jack Dalton - 2012-06-24 |
This almost feels like a dupe since this has been all over the news for the past week-- but yeah, those are some evil little shits. It totally belongs here.
|Meatsack Jones - 2012-06-24 |
That is okay, the next weeks she was replaced with a borderline personality disorder biker who likes skin.
|TheQuakeSoldier - 2012-06-24 |
5 stars for the shock and surprise America has that this exists. As if it doesn't happen, and hasn't happened for the past 30 years (by my personal count), each and every day right under their fucking noses.
This old lady has lived her fucking life. She can rise above this. Next time get a video of kids doing it to another kid and let's see the fucking donations roll in. You know, when there's ACTUAL mental trauma involved.
Binro the Heretic
This is actually a good thing. Most adults have a major disconnect when they see children bullying other children because, you know, bullying "builds character" and it's "all part of growing up" etc.
When they see what the vicious little brutes would do to them, given the opportunity, maybe they'll start to become concerned.
I'm just going to pretend that Quake only made his first paragraph.
I was relentlessly bullied in grade eight, and I remember the worst part being the hopelessness of it, because it literally happened right in front of the teachers and they ignored it.
As an adult, the idea that being bullied makes you a better person just makes me irate. Of all the people I saw being bullied through grade school, none of them turned into any sort of ubermensch. In my personal experience, I just learned to avoid social settings and started paying the bullying forward. I remember one time when I was bullying someone else, I even got a teacher to laugh at the victim. So my lasting legacy from being the target of bullying is memories of things I am totally ashamed.
|Crackersmack - 2012-06-24 |
Why the hell didn't this old lady make the driver stop the bus? That's what they did when I was in elementary school. Nothing made us shut up faster then the idea of getting home late and missing Ducktales or whatever.
Or not getting home at all.
|THA SUGAH RAIN - 2012-06-24 |
Her job description was to sit on a bus keep some tweens in line. She failed at that and walked away with +0,000. These kids are dicks, but its not like this doesn't happen every day to kids and adults all day long.
Binro the Heretic
She's actually probably pretty powerless, which is why the kids attacked her.
The driver is probably under orders not to stop unless it's a matter of life and limb or the kids become unruly enough to interfere with the safe operation of the vehicle. Remember, a lot of buses serve multiple. Running late on one route means all subsequent routes run late. You can imagine the outcry if so many kids got home twenty minutes late, especially for something like this that most parents would consider a "petty" reason to stop the bus.
She certainly couldn't lay hands on the kids. Teachers and other school staff have been fired for things as minor as grabbing kids' arms to haul them into the principal's office or putting a hand on their chest to keep them from attacking another child. If this lady had smacked a kid in the mouth, she would have been fired, likely arrested, definitely sued and the school district would have been sued as well.
She couldn't retaliate verbally. It would only have escalated the verbal taunts of the kids. If she had resorted calling them names or threatening to harm them, she would have been fired.
Raising the money wasn't her idea. It was started by someone who felt bad that she had been subjected to this treatment and deserved some compensation. The people donating obviously feel the same. I would like to see more funds like this established for all victims of bullying.
Myself, I'll wait to see what she does with all that money before I pass judgement on her.
I'm betting more than half will be donated to her church.
Her job was actually to assist disabled students. She probably has no disciplinary power whatsoever.
|Change - 2012-06-24 |
My five stars are for societal guilt raising 0000 for this woman in the last 48 hours. http://www.indiegogo.com/loveforkarenhklein
That's it, Cena_Mark! You're doing God's work, now!
Where have you been Highheelbox_Joe? I've been like a rotten peach since I left the private sector.
Whoa there Cena, calm down. I don't swing that way, y'know? You giving tips to the old lady though, I think you need more than that to make a Gmilf. You know what I'm sayin'?
|Binro the Heretic - 2012-06-24 |
Kids see adults acting this way all the time. What's worse, they see adults achieve fame and wealth acting like this. Bill O'Reilly is an obnoxious blowhard of a bully. Chef Gordon Ramsey screams in people's faces and slams pots around. Simon Cowell eviscerates people's self-esteem in front of an audience. Peter Griffin verbally abuses his wife and daughter with a psychopathic disregard for their emotional well being. Abby Lee Miller is an overbearing harpy screaming at twelve-year-old girls.
And this is the toned-down mainstream cruelty. Most people don't see the horrible shit that goes down in Internet chat rooms or discussion forums.
This does serious damage to people, especially children. Bullying never makes people "tougher". Abuse, be it physical or verbal, always weakens the victim. Children become socially and emotionally withdrawn to the point it becomes difficult bordering on impossible for them to function in adult life.
And yet, our society defends more zealously a bully's right to "free speech" than it defends their victims from the abuse. As a whole, our culture tends to think of the victims as the weakest of the herd who "deserve" to be culled. Calls to end bullying are met with rolling eyes, snotty remarks and a redoubling of bullying all in the name of fighting "oppression".
I don't know, maybe this is all just backlash from the late 1980s/early 1990s "political correctness" movement. Americans naturally rebel against people telling them what to do or how to act, even if they're being told to behave in a decent and humane manner. The cynical part of me says people are just cruel at their core and when they're denied the opportunity to bully ethnic minorities and homosexuals, they simply find more "acceptable" targets.
These kids don't need death threats. They don't need beatings. They don't even really need punishment, which would be pointless, really, because they wouldn't learn anything from it. They would only resent the victims all the more. What they really need are better examples to follow and the message that society frowns on this kind of behavior.
While we're waiting for everyone on the planet to be nice a better lesson to the oppressed might be that they take some kind of action, rather than absorb absurd amounts of abuse and wait for payday.
Ignoring them doesn't seem to be effective. Someone suggested stopping the bus. Some suggest immediate physical consequence. I think both ideas have merit. The proper method could be debated indefinitely.
I don't disagree with everything you're saying, but I think it sets a bad precedent to reward people for not actively improving or reducing the things that are shitting up their lives.
Sounds like this woman is a POE user.
Note: didn't watch the video.
|Nikon - 2012-06-24 |
Here's something else to think about: one of the kids tells her her family members killed themselves because they couldn't stand to be around her. Her son killed himself some years back.
Yes, but as it has been stated a couple of times in the comments by very deep thinkers who also curse a lot because that means they're serious, this lady is old and therefore who cares because other people get bullied.
|StanleyPain - 2012-06-24 |
I work retail, this is pretty much every day for me and the people doing it to me are not 13, they're over 30.
Can I get half a million dollars now?
Binro the Heretic
Record their awful behavior on video and put it online.
Thirding that. Video is an excellent tool for shaming awful people.
|memedumpster - 2012-06-24 |
Bear spray the little bastards. Can't find your way home, Billy, when you're fucking blind and screaming on the side of the road, can you?
Yeah. I actually think kids are awesome, though, and would never hurt one. Even these.
I'd bear spray the shit out of their parents, because that's just practical AND fun!
Heroin and Alf will get you through...
|Oscar Wildcat - 2012-06-24 |
Say, any of you people ever heard of "Lord of The Flies"? Yeah, didn't think so...
|chumbucket - 2012-06-24 |
Kids, still learning by example after all these years.
|Enjoy - 2012-06-24 |
Thoroughly Incompetant Adult Hired To Protect Children Cannot Protect Herself
Seriously, this is off the charts rediculous. I'm glad she gets a windfall but she also should be fired and return her pay.
You are not glad she gets a windfall.
How could she have controlled them?
|James Woods - 2012-06-24 |
Well, this was hard to watch.
|American Standard - 2012-06-25 |
Would love to hear the options you fuckers convinced this poor old woman could do anything to protect herself supposedly had.
She's past retirement age, and being paid 15k a year to help disabled kids on a school bus. You don't have that kind of job unless you need it. And you don't keep that kind of job by retaliating against the little shitbags who decide to give you a hard time.
I've worked in the service sector, and I've dealt with people who tormented me just because they knew they could. This woman has all my sympathy.
|grimetooth - 2012-06-25 |
While I agree the kids are horrible and this job probably sucks, the thing is kids ARE horrible and I'm a little surprised the lady didn't stand up for herself in any way or laugh it off to disperse the attention. Or at last resort walk up to the bus driver. She's a grown woman!
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