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Desc:Cleese and Palin have it out with a couple of guys of the cloth.
Category:Religious, Classic Movies
Tags:Monty Python, John Cleese, christianity, Michael Palin, life of brian
Submitted:Hooker
Date:08/25/12
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cognitivedissonance
Greatest first two minutes of a chat show EVER.
Old_Zircon
John Cleese's mustache alone is worth 5.
Bort
The gay guy (may I infer he's gay? he's wearing a maroon ensemble with a campy necklace) claims that you wouldn't write a bit about the death of Socrates. Well it turns out Steve Martin did just that, and he even got Werner Klemperer on board:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdHp0FmEr78

As far as "The Life of Brian" goes, you have to be watching with the intention of being offended if you fail to notice that Brian is a normal guy MISTAKEN for the Messiah.
Hooker
It's the greatest irony in the world that the people who have dedicated themselves to a piece of literature so frequently miss the point of art. The movie ends with a song with the lyrics, "You'll see it's all a show \ Keep 'em laughing as you go. \ Just remember that the last laugh is on you" and they think they can impress upon them that death is no laughing matter.

StanleyPain
Ultimately, the hilarity of the controversy over Life of Brian is that the movie isn't even about Jesus and it isn't a particularly strong satire of religion, it's more just an excuse for historical-themed Monty Python skits. The fact that so many people pretended to be outraged by it proves they never watched the movie or even understood what it was about. To this day, the strongest and best loved bits from this film don't even have anything to do with religion. Even the end song, which is legendary now, has nothing to do with Christianity or Jesus or anything and when totally removed from the context of the movie it is totally self-contained in its humor.

Bort
Agreed. The movie is more satirical of Latin class than it is of Jesus.

takewithfood
To be fair, I'd be pretty defensive, too, if I had based all my beliefs on a badly translated, 2,000 year-old fanfic. Or if I was wearing that robe.

That guy
It's not a particularly weak satire of religion, either. It doesn't attack religion theologically, but in practice.
Anyway, the video was interesting. Absolutely shit debate though.

Anaxagoras
Holy crap. That bishop really is annoying. With advocates like that, no wonder that Christianity faded in Britain.
Bort
I still like the Bishop of Oxford:

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=28992

Very much worth your time, if you haven't seen it before.

StanleyPain
Oh, it's also worth mentioning in this thread, for those who are unaware, that Malcolm Muggeridge is essentially responsible for the "creation" of Mother Teresa. His documentary about her work in Calcutta in the 60s resulted in her massive leap in stardom and fame and introduced the myth that the documentary footage had been filmed in "unfilmable" conditions and then rendered visible by the hand of God, when in fact, it was the cameraman using a low-light film.
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