|Binro the Heretic |
I don't remember a sleigh pulled by giant rabbits in the book.
Jackson took The Hobbit as an opportunity to make a LORT prequel that goes far beyond the story of bilbo and smaug.
The trilogy is going to be an epic that incorporates stuff from the appendices and even the Silmarillion that documents the changes occuring all over middle earth during the time of bilbo's saga. Radagast, The Necromancer (who is actually an enfeebled Sauron) are going to be key players.
It doesn't actually break from Tolkien's world or the politics of middle earth, but it does depart from the quaint simple story of The Hobbit into something far far bigger.
will it work?
i'll keep my faith.
I think thats Bombadil in the sleigh and molesting the hedgehog
Also, that was a total example of mansplaining, and it's an unfortunate habit I have that I'm trying to stop. Sorry.
nay, nay, well done
and as I recall the only reason he didnt fall to Sauron was because he was such a tree-hugging hippy-dippy that he didnt really give a wet slap about much else and only helped Gandalf somewhat by accident... yes?
Well, he also had a lot of contact with Tom Bombadil, living in his genius loci territory.
Please don't ever use the word 'mansplain' again.
|Caminante Nocturno |
I truly do hope they have the Goblin song from the Rankin Bass version in this.
i still remember being a little disappointed when the teaser with misty mountain came out and it wasnt from the cartoon.
ps im going lose faith if this doesnt have the dwarves singing the baggins song- tip the glass, crack the plates...
now, do you mean "where theres a whip theres a way" or the other song?
I like "The Wearer of the Ring," myself. It was the Imperial March for my childhood.
|Jet Bin Fever |
Thorin is slightly too good looking for my tastes. He should be the dwarviest of them all.
They look like a gay metal band. Not gay as in lame, gay is in a black metal band made of bears. Which would actually be far less lame than most black metal bands.
kind of a flaming Gorgoroth, if you will
Five stars for The Hobbit and five stars for the evil of stretching this into a three-film money grab.
Yeah, "money grab" seems like the least applicable term to something like this.
The Medium is the Message. Huge scifi/fantasy films need to be franchised in today's film economy. I'd rather someone with an understanding of character and plot structure be in charge of conforming to studio demands.
no, its not like the original novel. yes, it might be amazing.
I'm still confused as to why they didn't include the Scorching of the Shire in the original trilogy. They had it happen in a vision someone had, so why not do it and give Christopher Lee a last hurrah?
As an allegory for ww2 the scouring of the shire was an interesting idea in the novels; but novels can be paced very differently than films: especially immensely budgeted films where the stakes are very high.
I can't justify what the scouring of the shire would add to the films. Can you? They were already clocking in way beyond what american audiences will sit through to fit the main story lines in.
The essential purpose of the scouring bits were to let the hobbits really soak in the heroism they had gained during their journey: they come back home and kick ass. yes its fun, how does it serve the major themes and story of the film? it doesn't. is the film already too long? yes.
there you go.
|Billy the Poet |
Look, I hope it will be good, but there's not a terrible lot of peanut butter left in that jar.
What does that even mean? what sequences were you bothered by?
The sled was horribly composited over the forest, and there are several sequences that are pretty obvious greenscreen soundstages. I can't tell if that's different from previous films or if YouTube is to blame, but Bilbo doesn't really look like he's in Rivendell in a lot of those shots. I don't know if the color doesn't match up or there aren't enough imperfections, but it's pretty fake looking.
I just realized this is gonna totally revitalize the entire subculture of "little people", whom, after this trilogy, will henceforth eschew that moniker and insist, once again, upon being called Dwarves.
didn't most little people hate LOTR for basically being midget blackface?
|The Mothership |
I didn't see a single fucking dragon. But at least they didn't write out Beorn.
for what its worth the dragon doesnt show up until close to the end anyway, no woodelves either. but there were what look liked the goblins and trolls. i imagine the ending climax being saved from the trees by the eagles, but i dont remember seeing the eagles either but i may to watch it again
For narrative purposes Peter Jackson omitted dragons in favor of some extended elf songs and shit.
the final act is going to be the battle of five armies, which is actually pretty epic (not a euphemism) and it way out of character with the rest of The Hobbit
Bard? Remember Bard?
Billy the Poet
It's a bad sign of how padded it's going to be that they have Benedict Cumberbund voicing the Necromancer and Smaug, and I don't think that he even shows up in the first movie.
I think three films is maybe pushing it with the Hobbit, adding in material or no, but I'm still looking forward to it. Presumably Smaug will not be making an appearance until the second film.
|big pincers |
no spiders? :(
that doesnt happen until after beign saved by the goblins but before the getting captured by the elves. i starting to remember this story being a series of fuck-ups by the dwarves. i think i need to reread this thing
It is...literally. Basically the dwarves think they know shit and then they keep screwing up and Gandalf has to stop important shit (like figuring out a way to stop Sauron) to come back and save them. It's kind of a funny book when you read it from that point of view of how it's basically a story about Gandalf having to constantly save the day.
your name/comment combo drew a snicker
This is the standard I'm holding Jackson to:
message from the future: it was all a complete waste of time
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