Mitt's the same age as my father and they argue the same exact way. I don't care so much about Romney's Mormon faith, I won';t vote for him because he's a greed enabler. I'm sick of seeing disadvantaged people work their ass off to have not enough money to get by, while the children of the wealthy occupy meaningless office jobs and drive ugly ass Kia Souls. Philosophically I cannot allow the wealthy to hold the country's prosperity hostage for their own gain.
Not allowing the wealthy to hold the country's prosperity hostage for their own gain, I mean. Good luck.
Heh, well i mean you do what you can. Democrats obviously need help from the rich too, just the rich with a conscience.
The problem is that it's much easier to get rich if you don't have a conscience, so as long as money is the primary determinant of who gets into positions of power the rest of us will be ruled by the biggest assholes on earth.
Not to mention the fact that the people who are rich and aren't assholes probably aspire to something less shameful and dehumanizing than government in the 21st century.
He's just so unlikable. So very unlikable, yet there's a good chance he's going to be our next president.
Sounds like the president America deserves.
still possible, but not likely
|Jet Bin Fever |
Every Mormon I've ever met reacts this way when you start asking tough questions.
Oh, come on. If a stranger started grilling me on my atheism, there's a strong chance I would react with some level of hostility just because someone I just met giving me the third degree about anything is a pretty big breach of the social contract. Maybe the problem isn't that they're mormons?
The best is the debate that happens whenever someone posts that cartoon from The God Makers on a blog or something. It will be about evenly matched between practicing Mormons who say it's all lies and ex Mormons who say that if you actually read the founding documents of the Mormon church everything from that cartoon is in there.
Jet Bin Fever
My point is more that they somehow twist any reasonable question made from a non-Mormon position as a direct attack. You can be super careful with wording, but the second you start asking certain questions it turns into an ATTACK and they get needlessly defensive. I think they teach young Mormons that everyone is out to get them.
I didn't watch the whole thing, but it's refreshing to see him speaking candidly for once. It's so depressing that he basically folded and demurred for the entirety of the third debate (and much of the general election campaign). His whole message has been nothing but I Am Anti-Obama and maybe three other sound bites. At least in the 80s and 90s, there were candidates who weren't afraid to speak their mind on occassion.
I mean... Obama in 2008 was literally "I Am Not George Bush."
I'm sort of surprised Romney's Mormonism hasn't really come up in either the primaries or the general. Apart from some of the crazy stuff the Mormon church did/does, Romney isn't just some guy who sort of goes to church every Sunday: He was a Stake President, which is roughly equivalent to a Bishop. It wouldn't be illegitimate to try and figure out how that would affect a potential Romney presidency.
I'd rather wear special underwear than eat someone's flesh and drink their blood. I don't know any religion that doesn't have "crazy stuff."
You mean everyone hasn't been concerned about this from day 1?
There was plenty of anti-mormonism on right-wing christian radio prior to Mitt's winning the nomination. Then, like all loyal republicans its basically stopped and they've fallen in line. For example:
|James Woods |
As a Canadian, I have to ask so I can prepare, but what do you guys plan to do if Repubs fix the election?
It's just that I don't want another decade like the double oughts.
That depends. Can you get me into Canada?
You'll have to figure out getting in, contrary to popular belief, I don't know the boarder guards very well, I mean, I've seen them at the pub, but we're not exactly tight. Once you make it to the safe zone though, I've got a pullout you can crash on anytime chum.
If you're reeeeeaaally desperate we could always gay marry so you could become a permanent resident, but you'd owe me a solid for making me kiss a dude in front of a judge.
My passport's good until 2013 so the border's not an issue, it's more work and citizenship. If Mitt wins I may take you up on the gay marrying.
You just want a kiss, but seriously, if staging a revolt fails, come see Ol' Jim.
If Mitt's elected chances are Harper will make polygamy mandatory to appease him and there will be room for you too Jet.
Wait, do I have to eat poutine before I can be a citizen? Because that might be a dealbreaker, I'm sorry to say.
The border officers on the Canadian side are so much nicer than the ones on the US side.
"The border officers on the Canadian side are so much nicer than the ones on the US side."
Unless you are Canadian...then they give you the run around.
I'm sorry James Woods, it looks like our love was not meant to be.
I'll probably be in Vancouver in 4 years, so you'l have an even nicer safe house should you need it.
|Prickly Pete |
All I know about Mormons is that Mormons believe in Mormon Jesus.
If Mitt ran on a platform of "endless celestial sex in every home" I might consider voting for him.
Also: where did you get this crazy notion that the next Christ would appear in Missouri?!?! Everyone know that he'll appear in Jerusalem. It's just that he'll have a time share in Missouri. Romney sold it to him some time back... THIS IS JUST COMMON SENSE, PEOPLE!
The argument ends when Romney dissolves the question he was asked into a meaningless slime of anecdotes and talking points. Both people walk away thinking an idea was communicated but instead everything makes less sense.
I went to Kolob and all I got was this lousy planet.
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