It's okay. You guys could have done a lot worse. Just look at the Baby Boomers.

Some advice, for what it's worth:

Apathy is a horribly ineffective weapon. I don't know why we thought it would be. We really screwed the pooch on that call.

In the end, it didn't matter how many of us refused to play their little reindeer games. They only needed a few willing participants.

Again, sorry we dropped the ball.

That "we" may vary from place to place. The biggest problem, at least in my neck of the woods, is that too many kids bought into the Reagan ethic and never let go. That's not apathy, it's something worse.

So...Binro says his age group was apathetic and he personally won't change his attitude and just say sorry? What the Hell dude, youngin's like me need all the help we can get to try to fix humanity's problems. Society's ills and injustices are your problem too.

@ Bort:

Yeah, a lot of my contemporaries thought Reagan was the second coming, but those people weren't out to change the world.

We tried and failed miserably.

@ Cherry Pop Culture:

I said I was sorry, you little shit. Pay attention.

And what the fuck do you want me to do? Just tell me and I'll see what I can do, but I'm old, broken down and have a lot of demands on my time, so don't expect miracles.

"We tried and failed miserably."

It's the unfortunate nature of democracy that it's numbers, not quality of ideas, that win out. Except where there's money involved, in which case money has an advantage.

I don't blame myself or you for failing, because it so happens we graduated high school during a shitty point in history. The Right had figured out how to sell themselves to the masses with a combination of the Great Communicator, the Religious Right, moral crusades (abortion as the big one, plus gays and AIDS, plus all the side crusades you could shake a stick at like Satanism and D&D and Proctor & Gamble), and of course racial resentment over the Civil Rights Act. It took a while for things to fall apart enough for people to lose faith in Republicans, but people are starting to see the light at least a little. (Plus, demographics are finally starting to work against the Republicans.) Looking back at it, I'm kind of surprised things aren't worse than they actually are, because there was potential for things to go literally fascist.

Well, we've got at least eight years of a Republican-controlled House to look forward to, thanks to fucktards who didn't vote in 2010. You want to talk about dipshitted apathy ... ? Look no further.

According to articles I'm actually Generation XY, which are supposedly the coolest people. So, I'm outta here.

Things didn't go literally fascist because the Master never appeared, despite the People being ready. Not a single damn one of them actually *believes* all the swill coming out of their mouths, and that's a good thing for the rest of us. The closest it came was Sarah Palin and had she had an ounce of intelligence she'd have been a legitimate threat.

To be sure, guys like Gingrich are too smart to believe their swill, but they begat an entire generation of Republicans who ARE that dumb. I can't remember his name, but there was one freshman Teabagger who was shocked to discover that his health care would take 90 days to kick in, and felt there should be a government program he could go on that would cover him. That's pretty breathtakingly stupid, and it's sincerely stupid. The sort of sincere stupidity that would eagerly drag this country into fascism. Fortunately, the same variety of stupidity that has made Republicans so dangerous has also made them incompetent.

I guess we're lucky that American-manufactured fascist leader wannabes are all defective, unlike what they produce overseas. Also, the closest thing we've got to Brownshirts rely on Rascal scooters.

Not that we're out of the woods yet, but I think we're past the point of greatest danger. People no longer believe the Republicans are working for the common good, the Tea Party is spent, evangelicals are panicking because people under 40 are roundly rejecting the Culture Wars, and God bless those minorities for increasing their numbers even as Whitey dies off. This last election had the Republicans pulling out all the stops in their last big chance (?) to enact their agenda, and they failed across the board. It's only going to get harder for them, but they'll keep trying, so hopefully we'll keep alert and not give them another chance.

Binro pretends he's in his 40s.

I'm 42.

"I can't remember his name, but there was one freshman Teabagger who was shocked to discover that his health care would take 90 days to kick in, and felt there should be a government program he could go on that would cover him."

Remembered his name -- Andy Harris, and he's a doctor (well an anesthesiologist):

http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/11/16/entitled-tea-party-jago ff-wants-government-run-health-care-immediately-upon-entry-to-cong ress/

Well, this was a hell of a dark thread to find and read in 2019. In particular cognitive's comment.

yeesh