|The Mothership - 2013-01-31 |
Was the fleeing man inside, and just barely got out in time, or was he on the other side of the tank? I'm guessing the rest of the crew didn't make it....
Really wondering this too. He just seems to fall onto the ground behind the tank after the initial hit.
Driver compartment is separate and bulkheaded from the turret on T-72s
Could also have been some SAA unit liason directing targeting via telephone. US tanks used to have these on their rear before M1 turbine exhaust made this impossible.
I think it's most likely he was taking a nap in the shade of the T-72, as there is plenty of room down there to post up and take a good 'ol snooze out of reach of that hot Syrian sun.
After the ammo cooked off I bet he was like "Whoa, I've heard of the heat of battle, but this is RIDICULOUS! I'm outta here!" and went running off.
Or he was in the tank and his buddies died and he escaped with horrifying burns, probably only to get killed later in more senseless violence. That's always a possibility. I'm pretty sure it was the former though, seems more plausible.
|EvilHomer - 2013-01-31 |
PoeTV Watches People get Blown to Pieces.
No, PoeTV Watches Armored Fighting Vehicles get Blown to Pieces while PoeTV Infers People get Blown to Pieces.
PEOPLE SHOULDN'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN WAR BECAUSE IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE TO WATCH NOT LIKE THE A-TEAM!
This is what happens when objectivists try to ape morality.
Would you rather this be the sanitary drone strike night vision footage most people see on CNN? MORE people should be exposed to the graphic on site violence caused by foreign policy, not less.
Fuck you for trying to chastise that out of some righteous indignation born of the same mentality that enables these actions, you needle dicked gun nut.
Ouch! My pride!
Cena - I think it was the MLP. Prior to MLP, you never really saw any gorey, sexy, or sexilly gorey NSFW vids on here. The Hive Mind just didn't jive with it. But after MLP, it was as if everypony just threw up their hooves and said fuck it, nothing makes sense anymore.
Plus support vanished and stopped banning people, so I guess there's that, too.
I'm not trying to complain here, it's just weird to see the Hive Mind's core values change so much. It's like all the Xtian bashing - time was, you'd catch just as much flak for bitching about the Sky God as you would for believing in him. Not anymore. MLP is probably responsible for that, too.
Fabio - see above. I'm not complaining; if you people have never seen a tank blow up, knock yourselves out! I totally agree with you on the "importance" of having people watch stuff like thus, so they can see what life is like in the sandbox - although I really doubt it would have any measurable effect on people's attitudes about Obama's foreign policy; these videos are more about getting a vicarious thrill from seeing things go ka-blooie than about "opening your eyes to the TROOTH" or whatever.
I'm just surprised that poeTV is becoming so comfortable with being LiveLeak.
If any one act is responsible for changing the general attitude here, it was support banning people in the first place.
I don't see what's wrong with footage. Its not gory, its just real war footage. If anything this is like the A-Team or the old GI Joe cartoon, because the vehicle blows up and you see the guy run away from it.
Homer, I've been here for over 5 years now. I really haven't noticed any crazy shifts in what we post. Just gradual changes based on current events and trends.
Also, Fabio, I don't mean to be snotty here, so please don't take this the wrong way. I don't know too much about you IRL or what you've been exposed to. I hope it's not been that much, and if it has, then I think you'll "get" where I'm taking this, even if you don't agree with me.
To me, this video seems pretty sanitized; it doesn't really get you that much closer to the horrors of war than those CNN drone videos do. And I think that's a good thing!!! As I've mentioned before, I'm a vet myself (not a very heroic one), and I currently work at the VA as a peer counselor for PTSD-afflicted homeless vets (most of whom are very heroic). All poe-joking and story-arcing aside, I really do believe that there's a limit to just how much crap concerned citizens should be subjected to. You can get the "war sucks" message across without having to deliver the full experience straight into John Average's living room - even if that were possible, which it's not.
I mean, if poeTV's cool with ramping up the real here, I'd be happy to start finding some moderately fucked up videos of corpse-looting, decomposing children, and guys who have recurring flashbacks to driving five k with their best friend's severed head lying in their lap. You won't get the smell, or the emotional attachments to the people dying, or the adrenaline-dimmed awareness that you can't get away from the Very Shitty Thing unfolding before you just by closing your fucking internet browser, but it should do the trick! That'd show Middle America not to vote for either of our two major parties.
Cena - yeah, I dunno, maybe your right. The Xtian thing has DEFINITELY changed; I remember I used to have to watch my Christ-bashing on poe-red. Crazy as it sounds, the Hive Mind actually drove me further "right", or at least into a more moderate, live and let live attitude towards Jesus fans.
But I guess there's always been some LiveLeaking here... just not as often, or to the same degree.
We have trends. Back in the POE Red days furries were new, weird, and creepy. It was fun to bash them, but that got played out and now we rarely post furry videos.
I figure the Christian bashing videos got played out as well. Maybe we were all going through our angry atheist phases all at once? But again, now Christian videos have to be either really weird or intolerant to get out of the hopper.
I think the hive mind just likes the new and novel shit. As our culture changes we will post videos that relate.
I want to be sure to grant kudos to Homer for the job working with PTSD afflicted homeless vets. Seriously, my job is a profiteering greedy mineshaft compared to that kind of work. Thanks for doing a job that is badly needed.
Im not so sure about poeTV becoming the LiveLeak for war reality. I do see this stuff scattered in the bones we shuffle out of the hopper but its not like some endless train of footage. Im also not convinced any of us are really that entertained by it. At least, for me, this video scrapes the surface of what is the madness of civil war. Is it something i need to see everyday? No way. But it helps to remind myself that the bits and pieces i read or learn from "news" says little about the stark insanity that is a country full of weapons and anger. Only difference is over there triggers are getting pulled.
|blue vein steel - 2013-01-31 |
now i'm on CIA watch list, thanks
|lordyam - 2013-02-01 |
|longwinded - 2013-02-01 |
Dumb question - this was a government tank? What weapon was used to hit it and why is the video on the internet?
|Mancakes - 2013-02-01 |
The worst part of the poor, likely mangled bastard running for it is the rounds bouncing off the pillars he goes to hide behind.
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