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SteamPoweredKleenex - 2013-02-19

Wait, people pay for Adobe products?

memedumpster - 2013-02-19

Not twice.

mouser - 2013-02-19

You pay every time you use Flash.

SteamPoweredKleenex - 2013-02-19

Flash is a funny beast. It owes its ubiquity to being pirated all to hell while a Macromedia product. It can do amazingly good animation without a load of equipment and computing power, and it's fairly easy to learn.

On the flip side, either it or Firefox can't seem to get their shit together in regards to my computer's memory. IE doesn't seem to have a problem with it, nor does Chrome, but FF just clogs up my RAM whenever it encounters flash (and sometimes when it doesn't).

EvilHomer - 2013-02-19

I "pay" for Adobe products when I'm lying to other Photoshop users on a tech support forum, and when my grandparents ask me how I made them their Christmas card.

Normally I'd say the real reason they charge so much is because there's only three people in the entire world stupid enough to actually pay for their products, but they've been gouging their prices since well before the P2P era, so I just don't know.

RocketBlender - 2013-02-19

If it were any product besides photoshop, I'd try to make the "it's so expensive because so many people pirate it!" argument, but Photoshop is in the unique position of being the one that was pirated because it was so damn expensive.

Speaking of P2P, I just had to reformat my HDD. Anyone know a good program to look for to copy everything from my iPhone to my computer to rebuild my library?

sosage - 2013-02-19

Aside from the evil in this video: It's a tool. Everyone looks the other way when someone is learning how to use a tool for free. Where I start to get uneasy is when I see someone making steady money with said tools without paying. At that point, pay the tool maker something. Anything.

...or be like EvilHomer and lie to me about it at parties. Whatever.

As for the amount they charge, they do because they can. I think piracy effects their price rates, not because people are "stealing", but because it re-enforces their tools as the dominant industry standard. Piracy + marketing has created a loyal generation of users that are literate in Adobe tools. So when these users become professionals, what programs do the majority of them request a PO for? This helps make Adobe the dominant company in its space, regardless of other companies offering cheaper alternatives...and dominant companies charge whatever the fuck they want.

FABIO - 2013-02-19

I always thought they managed to stay in business due to every open source alternative having a nightmare user interface, like every open source program.

Hooker - 2013-02-19

All I know is that:

1) I don't have any interest in whatever the fuck "Creative Cloud" is.
2) Fuck this guy.

urbanelf - 2013-02-19

Imperative statements are knowable, apparently.

Old_Zircon - 2013-02-19

"Creative cloud" is the PC, transhumanist/singularitarian/Silicon Valley approved way of saying "getting people on the internet to unwittingly do our work for free."

SteamPoweredKleenex - 2013-02-19

It also involves a monthly fee, and probably giving up the rights to whatever you make with their program.

I will never forgive Adobe if I'm ever forced to use GIMP. Fuck them both.

EvilHomer - 2013-02-19

Ghost stars for Zircon.

TeenerTot - 2013-02-19

This is one of my peeves. Be it a CEO or a politician, I get real miffed when they dance an answer around a direct question. They have such disdain for us peons (and our lack of intelligence) that it's perfectly OK for them to waste everyone's time with bullshit non-answers, instead of just saying "I can't answer that right now."

Old_Zircon - 2013-02-19

It's a slippery slope from this to "why do you charge so much for a program that should cost about ?"

Enjoy - 2013-02-19

There are tell-it-like-it-is leaders but they get demonized by left-wing groups. The left prefer (Dear) Leaders who parrot talking points.

Jamie Dimon (JP Morgan), Chris Christie (New Jersey), Doug Oberhelman (Caterpillar)... all targets of thought police like Right Wing Watch.

StanleyPain - 2013-02-19

Oh no....these poor, poor, billionaires who refuse to accept any responsibility for helping the American financial crisis along and keep taking corporate welfare and taxpayer money even though they themselves pay pocket change in taxes might actually have the batshit, out of touch stupid shit that comes out of their mouth....ACCURATELY RE-QUOTED ON A WEBSITE SOMEWHERE!!! ORWELLIAN AND DYSTOPIAN AND OTHER TERMS FROM CLASSES I NEVER PAID ATTENTION TO IN HIGH SCHOOL!



SteamPoweredKleenex - 2013-02-19

Enjoy means "demonized" to be defined as "not sucking their master-money-race cocks with the Randroid reverence demanded by our betters by virtue of having taken more cash from taxpayers than anyone else."

Or something to that effect.

Jet Bin Fever - 2013-02-19

Count the times he says "creative" or "cloud" together or separate. It's astounding!
I've never bought an adobe product. I will never buy an adobe product.

catpenis27 - 2013-02-19

Why is it illegal to kill people like this guy?

chumbucket - 2013-02-19

"Creative Cloud" is the hypnosis cue but not working very well here apparently.

That guy - 2013-02-19

I'm sick of all these digital immigrants in my creative cloud.

kamlem - 2013-02-19

The real answer to the question is "Because everyone does it!". The "Australia Tax" (Australian distributors jacking up prices for identical products) is pretty ubiquitous over here. The internet is helping level the playing field and eating into domestic retail, but it is the distributors that create this mess in the first place.

My personal best example is a Denon amp, and 5.1 JBL surround sound speakers (Not HTiaB) purchased for

kamlem - 2013-02-19

^^^ poeTV does not like the less than symbol!?!

... less than 00AU *shipped* from Germany. Subwoofers and Amps are heavy. To buy the same items in Australia (including GST) would have cost over 00AU. The Subwoofer alone was 00AU.

Disposable income in $US
US - ,050,
AUS - ,952,
Germany - ,174

At least in Australia we can now often bypass the local distributors by planning ahead and ordering overseas, but unfortunately Adobe et al. still get the money and it is the local businesses that suffer.

SteamPoweredKleenex - 2013-02-19

See, there's your problem. You're buying your stuff in Astronomical Units which are, by definition, astronomical.

Switch to a more reasonably-sized currency.

TeenerTot - 2013-02-20

SPK made me giggle!

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