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Desc:Boston Strong.
Category:Horror, News & Politics
Tags:Police, boston, Bombing, Watertown
Submitted:Gommorrah
Date:04/22/13
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Prickly Pete
I voted this out to have the first comment and say: the police aren't doing this to be dicks. When you're going to such great lengths to find a very dangerous man, there's no time for "Please come out of your house sir, if you don't mind." If I lived there I'd say yes, please pat me down officer, and please pat down everyone in my neighbor's house so I know they don't have any bombs either.
memedumpster
So did any cops get their homes raided and their families searched? What about city officials? While I don't think they set out to be oppressive, I don't think they have any problem with it either.

M-DEEM
Maybe this was just a juicy opportunity to raid a house they've been dying to get into but had no legal reason before.

Or maybe just for practice? If you don't use it you lose it.

cognitivedissonance
Privacy is a purely Age of Reason phenomenon, and the sooner we ditch the pretense, along with other similar constructs like copyright, freedom of religion and the avoirdupois, we'll be on our way to an empire of mankind, free from God, free from altruism, FREE FOR OPPORTUNITY.

Old_Zircon
Yep, privacy is an experiment by white European people that's only a few hundred years old and seems to be reaching the end of it's usable life. I'll miss it a lot but I don't see it lasting too much longer.

Pre renaissance architecture didn't have halls because what the fuck is a hall? You just walk from one room to another, why wouldn't you walk through a room in your own home? All rooms are public places.

Old_Zircon
I'm not saying this is a good thing to return to but seems like it's the way things are headed.

Old_Zircon
But this video isn't really much of an indicator one way or the other.

cognitivedissonance
Had I read what I wrote out loud, I'd have done so in an impression of noted mid-century character actor, Hans Conried.

Cockmaster Flash
The ACLU has been rather quiet about this, which means they are part of the police state.
rhombus
"There are also "exigent circumstances" exceptions to the warrant requirement. Exigent circumstances arise when the law enforcement officers have reasonable grounds to believe that there is an immediate need to protect their lives, the lives of others, their property, or that of others, the search is not motivated by an intent to arrest and seize evidence, and there is some reasonable basis, to associate an emergency with the area or place to be searched."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent_circumstance_in_United_St ates_law
badideasinaction
My problem is we've set the bar where this is now okay, and you know someone's going to try lowering it. Is a cop killing enough? Mass shooting? Armed robbery?

rhombus
Point taken and I generally agree with your concerns. I just wanted to point out the relevant legal principal involved.

badideasinaction
Yeah, understandable. Given the scope I'd like to see this laid out clearly or only authorized at the federal level, and including broad rules to pretty much exempt anything out found during this.

I see this and all I can imagine is sheriff Joe Arapio rubbing his hands with glee and waiting for the next time a violent suspect is described as Mexican.

badideasinaction
Anything else found, that is.

jangbones
we Americans are definitely living in a surveillance state

I believe that what happened in Watertown is not all that significant of an indicator of this

Old_Zircon
What jangbones said.

badideasinaction
Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy with the situation either, but since nothing is going to be done by the people to actually prevent this sort of thing, the least the people could do is try and secure boundaries for having their rights violated, instead of letting it happen at random.

EvilHomer
So search warrants are only for the "wake up sheeple" crowd now? That was fast.

I'm glad their warrantless raids paid off, though. Tough times call for tough measures, as the cops proved that day.

Oh wait, no they didn't. The cops totally let him slip through their fingers, and it fell on some random shmuck to find the dude, half-dead, hiding in a boat. They shit on centuries of legal tradition and come away with absolutely nothing to show for it, but hey, at least a bunch of people came out into the streets and started chanting "U-S-A, U-S-A". I guess that means everything's fine.
memedumpster
Stop being a troofer (see that, a MLP pun!), it was just a coincidence that the terrorist act fell on the day a Siege of Boston re-enactment was happening. All those people signed up to be measles ridden Brits for the show.

grimetooth
My thoughts exactly, EvilHomer. Though at least they didn't shoot at random civilians like the LAPD.

CornOnTheCabre
but hey, at least Boston PD is paying for all the damage they did to that vigilant citizen's boat for shooting it up like it was Sonny Corleone stuck at a toll booth.

...lol

Vicious
A stupid comes across the sky. It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
Jet Bin Fever
So once they have this ability, does it ever go away?
memedumpster
This isn't new for Boston.
Don't read this while operating a killdozer.

http://www.aclum.org/sites/all/files/education/aclum_safe_home s_briefing_v2.pdf

Those were the days.

memedumpster
Also,
http://aclum.org/policing_dissent

Jet Bin Fever
good reads. Thanks.

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