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Desc:A thoroughly depressing documentary on the challenges of modern education and the pressure of money.
Category:Crime, Educational
Tags:failure, college, class war, educational crisis, student loan debt
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Jet Bin Fever - 2013-08-16
Does anyone else have two or three degrees and over 100k in loans? I have friend who just returned from Oxford who is pushing 200k and making adjunct pay. There are a lot of us.
kingarthur - 2013-08-16
I've got ~67K from a PsyD. I had to abandon due to a natural disaster. I've got two BAs and I'm working on my MBA now, though my employer is reimbursing me for it.

memedumpster - 2013-08-16
I have a degree, a car, and property, all with no debt. My life is miserable, and I am slowly starting to consider that America will never have the infrastructure to actually force me to pay back a huge debt, and that maybe I should go back to school in as horrifically expensive way as possible, because fuck it. I'm thinking I'd rather live materially comfortably in debt. Debt free at the bottom of the heap sucks.

candyheadrobot - 2013-08-16
Being single and poor only sucks when you aren't social, and don't do anything besides work, otherwise, it's actually lots more liberating than you might think. I'm poor and don't do either, but I make it by hikkomori/grass eater style.

Scrimmjob - 2013-08-17
I'm a two year school drop out living a comfortable upper lower class lifestyle! Had i finished my degree I'd have a slightly better paying soul crusher of a factory job, and enough debt to take a couple years to pay off.

chumbucket - 2013-08-16
I paid one loan off last year (20 years after graduating) and have one go into default when I was making hourly wages years ago. I didn't play hockey. I'll forever be in debt.
The God of Biscuits - 2013-08-16
Too bad you guys didn't join the GLORIOUS STEM MAJOR MASTER RACE
American Standard - 2013-08-16
Dropped out. Spent years listening to what a loser I am, and how I'd just made the biggest mistake of my life.

Fast forward a few years, and I own my own business. My only debt is a mortgage. My college pals, meanwhile, are drowning in loan payments they took because they were assured their valuable degrees would have them paying them off early.

I was an admittedly late bloomer, but that was my first moment of realization that people 20 years my senior don't know everything.
Nominal - 2013-08-17
They know the economic realities that were relevant during their time.

Blue - 2013-08-16
I just entered school full time. I'm gonna rely heavily on loans. On the one hand, I'm probably gonna get fucked but on the other hand I'm trying to pull myself out of depression and my only marketable skills are call center skills. College seems like the less bad option.
asian hick - 2013-08-16
I'd recommend seeing if there are any community colleges nearby worth a damn (i.e. their credits are accepted at 4 year institutions). Community college is a spectacular investment for polishing off 100- and 200-level classes cheaply

Pillager - 2013-08-16
Word of Warning: there's a huge discrepancy between what 4 year schools actually accept & what community colleges claim real schools accept. The highest level calculus class that the local 13th grade offers is laughed out the door at UVa.

Best of luck, Blue.

memedumpster - 2013-08-16
Also, when a community college calls something "Architectural Engineering" what they mean is "Mexican carpenter."

Oscar Wildcat - 2013-08-16
So what sort of degree are you there for, Blue?

Nikon - 2013-08-16
ashtar. - 2013-08-16
I got a "real" job in the university parking office when I was an undergrad. I had to work full time as well as going to school full time, but with the staff discount and paycheck I didn't have to take out any loans. Full tuition waiver for gradschool with TA work.

Which is great because I have a philosophy degree and the academic job market is horrible.

Also college sports are a massive fucking cancer. Yes, I went to Penn State, why do you ask?
Nikon - 2013-08-16
I agree. We have to cut out the cancer.

candyheadrobot - 2013-08-16
Seems like parking lots are a thing to do with Philosophy majors:


And while sports themselves aren't necessarily a bad thing, the economic and social effects of the industry behind them is. Watching that Paterno thing made me physically ill, not to mention the Stubenville case.

Oh right, education should be free, accessible, and equal. That's it. Hopefully places like Coursera and Academic Earth will continue to expand, in order to make such things possible.

memedumpster - 2013-08-16
College sports players should be paid, and allowed to whore market themselves for their own gain like every other not-slave human.

College book stores are also a cancer, just as bad as sports.

Nikon - 2013-08-16
One can avoid paying for books at the college book store by either torrenting them or buying an earlier edition from amazon.com. Tuition being used to pay for sports stadiums or coaches' salaries is harder to avoid.

ashtar. - 2013-08-17
I am that movie.

Scrotum H. Vainglorious - 2013-08-17
Jet Bin Fever - 2013-08-18

Jack Dalton - 2013-08-17
I know plenty of people with over 100k-- even 200k-- of student loan debt. Incidentally, they all went to law school...
pbl648 - 2013-08-18
Haven't watched, but look! You can see my office in the preview image! I bet I'm in there, watching poetv instead of doing work.
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