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Old_Zircon - 2013-12-18

I've got a TX-802 (rackmount DX7-III with 10 outputs) but it was made after they upgraded the converters in the DX line from 12 bit to 16 bit and it just doesn't sound the same. Awesome (still arguably the most capable FM hardware synth of all time, even though it sucks to program - still dirt cheap too, I think; mine was under 0 back in the late 90s) but not the same.


jreid - 2013-12-18

Are you bragging?


Burnov - 2013-12-18

Not so much the samples, but the tunes played remind me of soundtracks to games I played in the 80s and 90s.


Brass 3 - every space quest game ever.


Old_Zircon - 2013-12-18

Samples? We don't need no stinking samples.


EvilHomer - 2013-12-18

Yeah, this is straight synth. Don't go calling a synth a sample 'round no synth nerds, unless you're looking to start a bar fight.


EvilHomer - 2013-12-18

(for anypony who has better things to do than know the distinction already: generally speaking, a "sample" is a prerecorded soundclip, like a little cassette tape that starts playing whenever you hit a key. A "synth" is a virtual instrument whose basic waveform has been created by the machine.

Samples typically sound a lot more like the instrument they're trying to emulate, but they're more taxing on hardware and have a tendency to sound a bit plonky. It's very easy to land yourself in the Uncanny Valley with samples. Synths usually sound like they're being made by a machine, but often have richer, fuller tones. They're also easier to make, so most old school keyboards you find will use synthesized sounds instead of sampled.

There are also some pretty thorny distinctions between digital and analog synths; woe betide he who confuses the two, especially around an analog fan.)


Old_Zircon - 2013-12-18

And let's not even get into the nebulous, mostly ideological distinction between a synth and an electric organ.


Oscar Wildcat - 2013-12-18

By cracky, we'd use this olde timey contraption to play our gary numans and ultra voxes. The interface was as I remember the most baroque and opaque thing imaginable. This is an Evil Thing yes.


Old_Zircon - 2013-12-18

I've always found them pretty easy to use, myself. Much easier than most early to mid 90s stuff, for sure, provided you understand the basic concpet behind FM. Otherwise yeah, it would be kind of a mindfuck at first.

These things can sound completely fresh and modern even today, but none of the presets even begin to show that side of things. I can't pretend to be very good at FM programming myself, but it's great stuff.


Oscar Wildcat - 2013-12-18

So insisted my very derelict friend who got quite good at making those patches and programming peoples synths. Hard not to hear the thing and think 80's tho...


Scrimmjob - 2013-12-18

Is this the kind of job that you need to have a programing module to edit banks?


Old_Zircon - 2013-12-18

No, that was the rack system (I forget the model number of it) that was used for a lot of film scoring, where there were something like 12 modules you could install in a rack and each one was a full DX7 with no onboard programming capability, so you had to write your patches on the DX7 (or a computer based editor when those showed up) and upload them via sysex or something, but you could fit a dozen DX7's into a small rack and sequence huge FM orchestras.

I was like 4 years old when those came out, I probably shouldn't know as much about them as I do (which isn't all that much).

Anyway, the DX7 you can edit everything from the front panel; the DX-1 is the one that has dedicated controls for most f the parameters but there were only like 200 of those made and they cost as much as a car.


Scrimmjob - 2013-12-18

Ah, knobs are always more fun than plugging in values (unless you actually know what you are doing). Maybe some day I'll take out a mortgage on the house and find a DX1.


Sputum - 2013-12-18

I got one of these for 0 recently :D


Xenagama Warrior Princess - 2013-12-18

Can't remember what synths we have, but I do remember they were both Yamahas; the larger one I received as a present in the early 90s and the older, much smaller one I had before I was born. The smaller one allowed you to record and replay any sound.

I remember that every kid had the urge to play with these things in Service Merchandise.


Jet Bin Fever - 2013-12-21

What a beautiful keyboard.


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