Those aren't real sports. In horse racing the horse does all the work and in the Tour De France the bikes do all the work.

Hey I consider pinball a sport too and compete in tournaments. They're all physical activities. Then again I was a swimmer and sucked at basketball :)

Also there's a lot of people who say that pro wrestling isn't real either... just sayin'

Those people are idiots.

Pro wrestling is real sports entertainment, which means it's better than regular sports, because it's entertaining. And horse racing is totally a real sport, or at least it would be, if they let Rainbow Dash use her wings.

The fighting is fake, the choreography is very dangerous and amusing.

It's why Rey Mysterio was my favorite wrestler. That poor man had to have jumped off that turnbuckle into all sorts of ridiculous, painful scenarios. And every once in a while, an amazing pin.

thank you to all of you for explaining some things that are definitely not things that everyone everywhere has understood about pro wrestling for 100 years, in the comments of a video about basketball

The two sports are related, like when Dennis Rodman joined the NWO, when Carl Malone tagged with DDP, Shaq hosted Raw, Reffed a match, and clashed with the Big Show.

The Great Khali would make an awesome basketball player, unless the NBA allows chokeslams, in which case my money would be on the 'Taker.

And Gmork, is Rey Mysterio really your favorite wrestler?

Also, pastorofmuppets, while it's true that most people today already know this stuff, that was not always the case. Prior to the 1980s, wrestling promotions maintained strict kayfabe, and there were indeed quite a lot of people who thought wrestling was "real"; then, once the truth started to come out, there was a general backlash against wrestling, with some disillusioned people insisting that wrestling was "fake", despite the very real athleticism of the choreography.

For the last twenty years or so? Yes, almost everyone everywhere has understood this stuff. But not one hundred years. For most of the last one hundred years, few people outside the industry knew this stuff.

..and there you go, something new and interesting to learn about wrestling, thanks to the comments section on a basketball video!

Considering I put down childish things like wrestling when I was just leaving middle school, yeah. I believe he was still wrestling when I stopped watching.

Also pastorofmuppets go fuck yourself.

uh oh! Look what I did. I've said it before but I found out wrestling was choreographed when I was like 10 years old from an older kid and at first I felt a lot of anger: for all I knew the Undertaker WAS dead. As I got older I learned to appreciate its theatrics and stunning acrobatics. Saying wrestling is "fake" is like saying the circus is fake.

I would like it more if there was a character these days I could relate to. I still watch Portland Wrestling Uncut all the time and kind of prefer that to WWE but I'm kind of a Scab myself :)

Not anti-wrestling, just anti-discussions where everyone pretends to be the first person to notice something while simultaneously constructing a version of the past populated by straw men who were simultaneously Amish and retarded.

If 20 years ago someone thought Irwin R. Schyster was a real government employee, it was because they were 10, not because adults refused to apply the same scritiny to pro wrestling as they did to boxing or sumo wrestling.

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none of the time.

Wrestling's problem is Vince. It'd be like if every baseball game ever was between the Red Sox and the Evil Red Sox, and the yearly prize was editorial control of the Boston Globe, and John W. Henry's always managed to be on winning team, along with his father, son, and daughter.

Also there's no player's union.

i got bold! the poetv gods are smiling on my derisive wit

Hehe. Didn't know about that. I was just walking around but near restaurants and bars and it was either like "is there a holiday?" or "is the world coming to an end?" Pretty crazy.

Just the Blazers and the Timbers. We used to have a baseball team that was owned by Kurt Russell's dad too but it was AAA. Changed from the Mavericks to the Beavers to the Rockies for a bit.

The rest is bike jousting and kickball.

Bike jousting and kickball sound more like the Portland I imagine. You don't think a new focus on genuine sports will endanger Portland's indigenous hipster population, do you? Or will the ecosystem find a way to make NBA basketball ironic?

The Portland you imagine is Eugene.