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Desc:'If I can't have you girls, I will destroy you.'
Category:Horror, Crime
Tags:murderer, misogyny, PUA, elliot Rodger
Submitted:baleen
Date:05/24/14
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Binro the Heretic
I'm willing to bet it's not that women weren't attracted to him. He was a good-looking kid with a lot of desirable traits.

But I'm sure as soon as he started talking to them, they could sense the evil and sickness in him.

Any girl who had been naÔve or drunk or full of pity enough to fuck him would have wound up dead. She would have had sex with him once then not wanted a relationship and he would have stalked and killed her.

The problem with murder/suicides is they always do it in the wrong order.
StanleyPain
I'm willing to bet he basically just had a few bad experience and his psychological problems (and probably spending time on reddit men's rights forums) just did the rest of the work.

spikestoyiu
Expensive cars and sunglasses are not necessarily desirable traits, no matter how many times this kid says they are. But he clearly set a very high bar for himself (notice how he harps on "pretty blondes") and mentions a very specific desire to get laid rather than just spend time with someone.

Scrotum H. Vainglorious
5 for baleen because it's not kosher to 5 your own submissions.


BTW, the news is reporting that his dad was some unit director for The Hunger Games. What in the hell is a unit director? Does he fetch coffee for the main director or is it a legit position in the film industry?
Binro the Heretic
I think the unit directors go out and direct stunt scenes & other action sequences while the main director directs the scenes with the actors and stuff?

baleen
Yes. Stunt scenes are a bit glamorous. Unit directors generally shoot all the B-roll, or stuff that is edited in between the actual scenes in the movie, outside of the main action of the film.

I think we submitted this at the same time.

misterbuns
Assistant directors on big features handle background talent and schedule the day.

unit directors handle b-roll stuff like cut aways.

exy
That's some cold shit.

How many actors are studying this clip to perfect their "dead eyes, evil chuckle" monologues? It's a pretty good chuckle.
Old_Zircon
I had the opposite experience, I'm shocked at how unconvincing his acting here is in light of the fact that he was serious. If I saw this before the shooting I wouldn't have expected it to lead to anything because it seems really fake. Which makes it even creepier.

EvilHomer
I would call that chuckle neither "evil", nor "faked". It's certainly a far cry from the way one might *imagine* a remorseless killer would chuckle; it is neither intimidating nor convincing, but rather sounds goofy, forced, and dare I say a little pathetic. But I would argue that this is precisely the sort of a chuckle a *real* remorseless killer would have.

Real killers, particularly spree killers like this man, tend not to be the most imposing people. He is not a badass, he does not cut an intimidating figure; rather, he strikes us as a scared, shrinking little fellow, a forgettable turd whose anger might appear to be (and, in many ways, is) both childish and affected. If he sounds like a complete dork play-acting how he might imagine a stone-cold butcher would behave, well, that's probably because that is exactly what's happening!

What we are witnessing here is the banality of evil.

Nikon
This was very hard to watch. Five for crazy evil.
EvilHomer
And of course almost half the comments are about whether he's hot/ whether the commenter would fuck him.
Binro the Heretic
But I think it helps underscore the fact this guy could have gotten laid if he weren't a creepy asshole.

A lot of the guys I see complaining they can't get laid because "girls aren't attracted to them" are like this. They're often physically attractive and have other things in their favor, but again, women are put off by these guys' shitty attitudes or can pick up immediately there is something wrong with them.

We need to somehow get through to guys like this before they reach the breaking point. They need to be told it isn't their looks or situations turning women off, it's their attitudes towards women.

Or maybe we can't ever get through to them.

baleen
There's another video of this about how he's from Santa Barbara so he's progressive and liberal.

Of course, your typical feminist hating liberal gun fanatic.

EvilHomer
Attitude? How could it be his attitude? He's entitled to sex, you see. And anyone who doesn't give it to him is an evil subhuman cum-bitch who deserves to die.

It's not his attitude that's the problem, no no, it's the attitude of all those stupid soon-to-be-dead whores.


Anyway, I get what you're saying, but the whole "wow that killer is so hot, I'd fuck him" reaction is still super-creepy. It's one thing to be put off by the guy when you think he MIGHT be a psychotic killer, but quite another to get your genitals wet when you know he IS a psychotic killer. The same thing happened with Luka Magnotta; people on the internet are nuts.

Oscar Wildcat
Well, he's beating his chest, and he's negging the viewer, and IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING. But wait, there's one small problem...

EvilHomer
"The quickest way through a bitch shield is an armor-piercing round."

Sudan no1
A lifetime of spoiled entitlement coupled with internet manosphere PUA horseshit... can't say I'm too surprised.
Spaceman Africa
So how long until the media blames his autism for this?
Sudan no1
well, it's definitely easier than blaming a culture that glorifies violent men and sells the lie that every man on earth, no matter how ugly on the outside or inside, deserves a HB9 or above.

Miss Henson's 6th grade class
Is an HB9 a kind of pencil?

PegLegPete
Completely evil. Fooled and hypnotized by some of the worst culture in our society and rejected by it at the same time.
Billy the Poet
Pft. We were into insane internet misogynists long before they went mainstream.

(But seriously, fuck these people.)
Riskbreaker
I can already see all the "FALSE FLAG!" PUA and even a revival of TFL videos coming after this.
memedumpster
Mystery Akbar!

il fiore bel
I can't stand "nice" guys in general, but the most extreme kinds, like this sad fool, make me want to run, not walk, for the nearest hill.

And if he honestly thinks he was the only virgin at his schools, then it sounds like he spent all his time obsessed with who he considered the "popular" kids instead of seeking out people to hang out with, regardless of popularity. And then there's the fact that he said he would specifically attack the stuck-up sorority blonde girls.
Grandmaster Funk
Seriously, who the fuck even continues to maintain a notion of "the popular kids" after high school?

memedumpster
The entire American South, unfortunately.

Caminante Nocturno
I should probably find it difficult to laugh at this guy, but this video...
SixDigitDebt
It's like if livejournal had a gun.

Redford
This video is so evil it needs to be on POETV twice. He sounds like some sort of cartoon villain, and I doubt I would take him seriously except for the fact that he just shot a bunch of people.
Azmo23
you girls should be dating any sinister weirdos you know to save the world from their twisted fury
i know you're saying, wtf fuck you i gotta life to live jack
and i'm like yeah i'know but somebody's gotta be a hero
and then you will nod like a wise old black lady and we will resume our sisyphean toils in impotent attempts at stabilizing the neurotic
whoa i was typing this while listening to the video and then he laughed and it threw me and i can't get back on topic
sarrry
Shoebox Joe
Give me your daughter and you'll get a T-shirt.

il fiore bel
https://www.youtube.com/user/ElliotRodger/videos
Oscar Wildcat
Holy shit, girl, that's the mother lode right there. How could this guy have escaped our notice for so long?

Nominal
Pussy is the best gun control.
BHWW
He was angry, among other things, that his sister's boyfriend and her had both achieved sexhaver status before he did:

"I eventually grew to hate him after I heard him having sex with my sister. I arrived at the house one day, my mother being at work, and heard the sounds of Samuel plunging his penis into my sisterís vagina through her closed room door, along with my sisterís moans. I stood there and listened to it all. So my sister, who was four years younger than me, managed to lose her virginity before I did. It reminded me of how pathetic I was, that at the age of twenty-two, I was still a virgin. I hated her boyfriend as well. Mysister said that heís been with other girls before her, and Iím sure he lost his virginity at a much younger age. It is such an injustice. The slob doesnít even have a car, and he is able to get girlfriends, while I drive a BMW and get no attention from any girls whatsoever."

There was some other bits about how he had tried to gain the attention of some of the sort of blondes who cruelly rebuffed him - i.e. according to his manifesto he barely put any effort into communicating with girls, they were simply supposed to be astounded by his magnificence and walk up to him.

"One of my hopes was to at least lose my virginity before my time as a teenager was over. Being a virgin at the age of twenty would make me feel very defeated. I made a bid to do everything I could to lose my virginity in those few remaining days I had. With a tremendous amount of panic, I wondered what I could possible do. The only thing I could think of was to go out to the common areas of Isla Vista as much as possible. I had to put myself out there, even if it only increased my chances of having sex by one percent. One percent was still better than zero. For those crucial twelve days I had left as a teenager, I walked over to the center of Isla Vista every day and sat at one of the tables outside Dominoís Pizza, hoping against hope that a girl would come up and talk to me.
Why wouldnít they? I looked good enough, didnít I? Or did I not look good enough?
Such thoughts flew through my head in frantic waves. For dinner, I always walked over to the healthy restaurant called Silvergreenís. There were always hot girls there, but none of them deigned to even look at me. On every one of those nights, I walked home alone, with my head down in defeat."

"On one of my very last days as a teenager, as I was sitting at my usual place at the food court outside Dominoís, I saw a sight that shattered my heart to pieces. A tall, blonde, jock-type guy walked into one of the restaurants, and at his side was one of the sexiest girls I had ever seen. She too was tall and blonde. They were both taller than me, and they kissed each other passionately. They made me feel so inferior and worthless and small. I glared at them with intense hatred as I sat by myself in my lonely misery. I could never have a girl like that.
The sight was burned into my memory, and it caused a scar that will haunt me forever. When they walked away, I followed them in my car for a few minutes, and when they entered a less inhabited area I opened my window and splashed my iced tea all over them. It was all I could do at the time, but at least it was something. At least I made some effort to fight back against the injustice. I felt sick with hatred that night. The hatred boiled inside me with burning vitriol."
Shoebox Joe
So much for Great Expectations. ;(

il fiore bel
Huh, apparently Samuel has a rather noisy dick!

Maybe that was the problem. Maybe Elliot should've tied a whistle to his and girls would have been falling all over themselves to get to him.

It makes a lot more sense than blaming a half-assed dating strategy and letting the lack of some "prize" crush one's self-esteem.

themilkshark
5 for evil. FUCK
Lurchi
play him off, keyboard cat
James Woods
If I'd seen this before he killed a bunch of people it'd be hilarious.
unknown specimen
What's really scary is how many people I know who are exactly like this kid. I was listing off all the probable psychological disorders in my head while watching.
(For those curious I figure: Boarder line personality disorder, with a God complex and a splash of shitty parenting disease.)
Jet Bin Fever
I'd concur.

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