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Desc:Donny and Marie on why blacks can't be priests in the Mormon church and the lesser roles of women
Category:Religious, Accidents & Explosions
Tags:racism, Mormons, barbara walters, Osmonds, patriarchy
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Gmork - 2014-06-18
Sexism too. But that's standard for any christian based cult. (JW especially)
Oscar Wildcat - 2014-06-18
"..but as far as speaking her mind, that should be the mans job".

Keep your pimp hand strong, Donnie.
Jet Bin Fever - 2014-06-18
It's amazing to think that it was 1978 when the rules were changed to allow all men to hold the priesthood. It took so damned long. The interesting thing is that supposedly Joseph Smith himself was Baptizing and ordaining blacks in his day, but somehow in the moral vacuum of the 1800s that was lost and prejudice was put into its place. Can't really verify that though, like so much about the early church.

And Marie didn't pay attention in Seminary, because there is absolutely nothing in Mormon doctrine that states that women aren't allowed to speak their minds and have equal say in their families. It's a popular misconception though and every 6 months they say stuff at conference about it trying to dispel that myth.
Hegemony Cricket - 2014-06-18
Being a new branch of Christianity with an added coating of 19th century crazed huckster demagoguery piled on top, it's sure to have some kinks to work out--but enough about polygamy .

No worse than Catholics but distinctly better than Church of Christ folks, Mormons are in an interesting spot on the continuum.

But some these weird beliefs about PoC may have to do with the Mormon's variation on the ever popular Curse of Ham (thanks Wikipedia):

And [God] had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them. And thus saith the Lord God; I will cause that they shall be loathsome unto thy people, save they shall repent of their iniquities." (2 Nephi 5:21)

bac - 2014-08-02

Smith did indeed give the priesthood to black men. That being said, it was the second president/prophet of the church Brigham Young (yeah thats where the university got it's name) was racist as all fuck (if a white and a black marry the only way to have the sin be forgiven involves beheading. yeah he was that fucking racist). It's not to hard to imagine his hate boner to transfer over to getting revelations straight from God himself espousing the inferiority of those who were not the Seed of Abel.


It is Mormon doctrine that Black people (all of them the world over) are the descendants of Cain. Meaning that "The Mark" That God gives Cain for being a dumb fucker for killing his brother and then lying about it, is literally Black skin. The scripture you quoted from the BoM (that's Book of Mormon if you're not up on the cool kid jive) specifically has to do with Native Americans (all the way from the north pole to the bottom tip of south america) and why they have dark skin. Also I can't say for sure but I'm under the impression that that no organized religious group says the curse of ham/Canaan is being black. (not sure if that's what you were implying).

Huh...well I Just did some searching and it would seem the church has been trying to backpeddle the fuck out of the whole "dark skin is a curse from god thing". for the past year or two. Which is fucking horseshit because that shit was taught in every fucking sunday/seminary class I ever went to that had to do with it.

Cena_mark - 2014-06-18
They sound just like Rand Paul when he was trying to explain to students at Howard University that The Republican Party is the party that is truly best for blacks.
dairyqueenlatifah - 2014-06-18
Yeah, I wish she would have asked them to elaborate on how a religion that specifically says blacks are lesser than whites and aren't allowed any leadership positions has more to offer blacks than any other religion.

dairyqueenlatifah - 2014-06-18
Wow. I never knew they were Mormons.

I also never knew they looked far more like a romantic couple than siblings back in the day. Creeeeeeeppppyyyyyyyy.
Cena_mark - 2014-06-18
Jack and Meg White give me a similar vibe.

Yellow Lantern - 2014-06-19
Jack and Meg White were married, not siblings.

Change - 2014-06-19
They also were kind of playing off of society's decision that they were sibling-weds.

Kind of like the 'is he gay?' ambiguity surrounding Long John Baldry, Rod Stewart, Mick Jagger, and David Bowie - by never actually saying what the deal is during the peak of their careers, it generated a lot of buzz.

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