These are the versions on Netflix and it's funny getting people to watch the show through there, because they near always say the show is better than they thought it was, but the special edition effects are disrespectful to the original creators.

Also, this planet killer could have been taken out in two minutes by finding a planet chunk the right size and have it chase the Enterprise past it and down its throat at the right calculated velocity. Hey, Spock, F = MA, it wont take a very big rock to trump an impulse engine explosion at warp flippin' two.

I'm confused. Modern effects? THESE are "modern effects"?

I just saw this episode a couple of weeks ago on Hulu, so I submitted the youtube version without a close examination, but if this is CGI, it's like a remarkable CGI simulation of models. Possible exception? Maybe? The doomsday machine itself?

If this is a remastered version, i suspect that the remastering was mostly hype from CBS. Or maybe it's just been done very tastefully. Whatever the case, I think I'm okay with this.

Okay, I just saw a video comparing the old and new effects, and I see what was done, but I think it was done very tastefully, and I approve, so long as the original versions are preserved. I understand that the DVDs give you both versions.

Star Trek is so good that a little tweaking brings it almost all the way into the present. It think it was 1967 when we got a true idea of what the earth looks like from space. Star Trek was ahead of it's time, and it deserves to shed the details that look like cheap 1950s sci-fi movies,

They didn't soup it up. They cleaned it up.

That's a pretty good way to put it. It is like CGI simulations of models. Whatever for? To appeal to a new audience? So, new audience, was it the old effects that made you prefer baldy and breasty to The One True Captain?

It begs the question why every weapon in the Star Trek universe isn't some warp speed projectile. What the heck would survive a warp 9 collision?

I like it, so I must be the audience. I'm not new; I'm oooooold. I watched Star Trek about 7-8 times a week during the seventies, and when I watch this now, it seems just cleaned up enough so that it feels like the same experience, without the drop into cheapness and datedness that you might expect. For me, it's a nice balance, but I'd be outraged if the originals weren't being released on the same DVDs.

>>So, new audience, was it the old effects that made you prefer baldy and breasty to The One True Captain?

Tactful of you not to mention darky.

I think people from my generation really don't understand when young people complain about shitty cgi, I mean, did you SEE the fucking Gorn? We totally grew up on shit like that. The CGI here isn't totally realistic? Poor babies.


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I've seen a few episodes with the CGI and I dispute the idea that it looks great. Even the CGI in TNG was better, and it really wrecks the whole experience for me.

She felt off-model somehow, but whatever they did, she's never come across so competent, intelligent, and law-abiding.