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Desc:A much more balanced and informed perspective than that other video by you know who
Category:Pets & Animals, Educational
Tags:Hunting, Catie wayne, Dnews, trace dominguez, poaching
Submitted:John Holmes Motherfucker
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Comment count is 23
John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-07-10
This is more like it! This is way more thoughtful than most major news outlets covering the story
mon666ster - 2014-07-10
Young racial minority urban males are often denied the same economic opportunities as their suburban white counterparts. Many turn to selling crack in order to achieve financial independence. Therefore, crack is good for the black community.

It's the same logic.

The hunters do not help conservation efforts. The conservationists take advantage of the hunters in the absence of appropriate funding from other sources. Were governments or private donors willing or able to step up and contribute, the hunting would be unnecessary. But because they don't, they rely on the fabulously wealthy to spend the equivalent of a house just to murder a fancy animal.

You want to impress me, GoDaddy guy? Spend 0,000.00 to save an animal without killing it. Otherwise, that's exactly why I didn't use you to register my site. They don't hunt these animals to save them. It's just the price they pay to kill them.
John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-07-10
>>Were governments or private donors willing or able to step up and contribute, the hunting would be unnecessary.

Or... if you had a magic lamp that could grant you three wishes. While we're brainstorming, let's not leave anything out.

mon666ster - 2014-07-10
Right back to that defeatist thinking, huh?

Give me a political party that will reduce military spending and instead invest in the preservation of the environment, including endangered species, and I'll actually go vote again.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-07-10
I'd be interested in hearing about better solutions, but I hear people (not necessarily you, at least you're a vegan) acting all righteous indignant about the people who are actually doing something. It's about what is. Right now.

I don't think you can really know what motivates people. I don't find it hard to imagine that hunters take great satisfaction in contributing to the preservation of a land that they know better than the rest of us. But I don't care about why they contribute if they contribute. Animals don't care either.

Sanest Man Alive - 2014-07-10
"Give me a political party that will reduce military spending and instead invest in the preservation of the environment, including endangered species, and I'll actually go vote again."

Oh, goody. I take it you're one tiny sliver of a part of the reason we ended up with another fucking turf war in congress that ended in another fucking government shutdown and ultimately another fucking backslide, for the sake of a one-sided "compromise", on the liberal policies that might've actually helped us get a little bit closer to that brave new world you want so badly but don't really seem to want at all. Thanks for your lack of contribution, you pie-eyed asshole.

SolRo - 2014-07-10
think 666 sums up pretty nicely how utterly useless the people that only accept a perfectly ideal solution are.

mon666ster - 2014-07-11
Actually Sanest, I'm Canadian, so screw your government shutdowns. But keep voting Democrat and let me know how that works out for you.

As to SolRo, who says I only accept ideal solutions? I'm not arguing that this hunting for sale is helping, I'm arguing that credit shouldn't go to the hunters. The hunters are despicable. Bravo to the conservationists who sell their souls to the devil to try and save the animals they can.

As to the hate I'm getting for wanting a better way, it's fairly indicative of why your country is going the way it is. Obama continues Bush's policies? Well, gotta vote for him or the Republicans will get in and do the exact same thing. God forbid you actually withheld your vote for one election and told the party why.

But I guess I'm useless cuz I'd like to see things change for the better, or cuz I question the validity of a representative government based on a first-past-the-post party system.

Sanest Man Alive - 2014-07-11
"Poor, poor pitiful meeeee!"

No, you're useless because when someone else asks if you've got a solution, your only actual response is "stay home and don't do shit." I'm glad that strategem actually works somewhere on this planet, because all it gets me is another corrupt fuck of a governor who addresses his public like a preschool teacher trying to get kids down for naptime while he refuses more federal funding for Medicare... ah, but enough about my problems, today is all about you and your ideas for the rest of the world!

Alright, I can drop the glibness for a minute. Nobody hates you for "wanting a better way". We just hate you for spewing sensationalist garbage from the start of this thread. "It's just like black kids selling crack"? Really? If you seriously want to compare this topic to drug abuse and distribution, maybe go with needle exchange programs for heroin addicts. They're also a stop-gap measure, and far from perfect, but in the countries that institute them, they have helped check the spread of HIV and other blood-borne diseases via dirty needles. Best of all, since we know you really want to, you can still go ahead on and demonize the practice for glorifying junkies!

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-07-10
You still have two wishes left.
Oscar Wildcat - 2014-07-10
Question: Does hurting JHM give him a boner?

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-07-10
Does imagining someone's hurting me give YOU a boner? Or does talking about my boner give you a boner?

Oscar Wildcat - 2014-07-10
It just sort of seems like that's what you're coming here for now. Sadly, Orcs took off before giving you what you're really looking for. Not sure I'm up for it, either.

As regards your boner: it featured prominently in those earlier conversations, hence my bringing it up now. Otherwise, nothing special for me.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-07-10
I don't know what you think I'm coming here for, I don't remember any conversations about my boner, and I don't know who Orcs is. All in all, time well spent.

Azmo23 - 2014-07-10
catie wayne sure looks weird in this video
mon666ster nails it with his analysis above this
Azmo23 - 2014-07-10
...and not just because he is apparently a vegan

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-07-10
Well, I agree with the analysis of whoever said that Azmo is completely useless. The reference to Catie Wayne seems weirdly random since this was presented as an opposing viewpoint to hers. Are you saying that they're not really different? It's like you're trying to make a joke that you don't understand. I don't get the sense that you even read mon666ster's analysis, and it makes no logical sense that being a vegan would make his analysis more or less true, just less hypocritical. FYI, Oscar, reading this is sort of painful, but it doesn't give me a boner.

Azmo23 - 2014-07-10
haha you are so oblivious

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-07-10

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-08-03
I'm oblivious to whatever you're saying. And I'm okay with that.

namtar - 2014-07-10
Let's glorify and make killing endangered animals look cool; that's bound to make things better in the long run.
John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-07-11
Incidentally, I think that rhino in the preload is sedated, not dead. If that's the white rhino. The rhino was darted and treated for a lion wound.

I think our choices are to go extinct ourselves, manage wildlife, or not manage wildlife. In the long run, what will work is having a plan.
Scynne - 2014-07-11
Okay, this guy is evil. That's worth five stars. Why are people one starring it for moral reasons? It's PORTAL OF EVIL TV. Asshole wannabe beardman pretending he's in his 20s is evil for unironically justifying the hypocrisy, which is a definite five in my books.
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