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takewithfood - 2014-08-30

This show has been so disappointing.


Kabbage - 2014-08-30

I'll bite - how?


Cena_mark - 2014-08-30

WHAAAAA!!!! Season 3 was brilliant. Even more brilliant than MLP:FIM. You're a disappointment. Korra deserves better fans than you!


Xenocide - 2014-08-30

Season 2 was disappointing. Season 3 is phenomenal. It's probably the best season of either Avatar series.


infinite zest - 2014-08-30

This looks pretty damn cool. I only know about it because of some movie whose clips are up there with Garbage Day. I stopped watching after about 2 minutes because there's probably spoilers, but this is fantastic animation and looks a lot more fun than AoT.


baleen - 2014-08-30

So the whole show is a Final Fantasy cutscene.


oddeye - 2014-08-30

Basically a music video without the music.


takewithfood - 2014-08-30

Season 3 has been a big improvement over Season 2, maybe even Season 1. The music is awesome as always, and it's fantastic having Studio Mir back in charge of the animation. It was also immediately apparent to me from the first episode of the season that they had finally brought on at least one female writer, something the show has badly needed. But the it still suffers from a lot of problems. Here are a few, rapid-fire.

Spoilers ahead, obviously. And please keep in mind that this is just opinion.

So, Bolin is basically Jar Jar Binks. He's pure slapstick, all the time. In the final episode he even interrupts the strategy session on how to find and rescue Korra to suggest something about making dumb bird calls. He isn't utilized for anything but laughs, pretty much ever. This is a strange step for a show that is otherwise a fair bit darker than the previous series. And I don't think it works.

Mako and Asami have minimal personality and no plot arcs aside from that awkward, forced, teen romance drama that nobody gave a shit about. And yet they tag along because.. I guess reasons.

I think my biggest gripe is that Korra is a faux action girl. Most of this season consisted of everyone desperately trying to hide and protect Korra from the bad guys, even though she's the goddamn Avatar and should be able to kick the fuck out of them. What is even the point of having an Avatar if you have to hide her away at the first sign of trouble? She gets captured, what, twice this season? (How many times is that in total?) And in the finale she spends most of the episode being tortured, beaten up, and even after getting saved from certain death by her friends, she winds up crying in a wheelchair while her responsibilities as the Avatar are taken on by her friends.

Korra has accomplished next to nothing as the Avatar, even after 3 seasons. Yes, last season she basically saved the world, but only thanks to some deus ex machina ass-pulls at the end. It had little to do with her character or any qualities she possesses. This season she only managed to accomplish not getting killed, and just barely.

Each season has followed the same basic structure: adult male bad guy has evil plan and Korra is in the way > he has unusual bending powers for some unexplained reason and is somehow much stronger than her even though she's the Avatar > Korra is full of doubt and gets repeatedly beaten up and/or captured and generally fails to make any progress > repeat for entire season until finale > in finale Korra gets beaten badly like usual but then gets saved by deus ex machina.

I want to like this series, and there are parts of it I like and even adore, but I've found it very disappointing compared to the original series.


takewithfood - 2014-08-30

Meant as a reply to the above, but I done goofed.


Kabbage - 2014-08-30

I feel like Korra choosing to undo Avatar Wan's division of human and spirit worlds was a pretty huge accomplishment. The world is forever changed because of that, and it was entirely her choice NOT to return things to the status quo.


takewithfood - 2014-08-30

Is it really an accomplishment or is it a choice she made when the opportunity fell into her lap? And why did she make it, and how have things improved as a result?


IrishWhiskey - 2014-08-30

I think your biggest gripe is the series' strongest character arc. She's not a faux action girl, and the characterization of her being beat up and tortured, while true, is undermined by the fact that she decided the course of action after rebelling against and overriding the people who wanted to protect her, her decision last season to open the portals, and the kick ass fighting in the clip above. People want to hide her away because the Avatar state is permanently threatened, but she doesn't let them, and that's pretty consistent.

Since series 1 they've been stripping away or threatening her Avatar identity. She defined herself from the start as 'the Avatar' and not much else, and was eager to prove that after being sheltered from harm all her life. Then she lost her bending season 1, and was about to commit suicide. Having an 'Avatar' around was more important than her life, and she didn't consider herself anything without it. She's lost her connection to the past lives, now her mobility and probably bending again, and repeatedly been at the brink of losing the Avatar forever. People don't see her as a hero, they despise her for the trouble spirits cause.

The best moment from the finale was after Jinorra, looking just like Aang, someone who comes across as a better Avatar when dealing with the spirit realm and who saved Korra in both last seasons, took over the Avatar's responsibilities. With all the best intentions, they told clearly depressed Korra she's not needed anymore, and the season ended on that body blow.

She takes every loss as her failure to live up to the title, even though she's making good hard decisions that have undone what Aang and based Avatar's caused by their failures. She's restored the imbalance caused by Wan, and undone Aang's failure to stop the Fire Nation's massacre. Granted they had good reasons as well, they weren't gods who could stop everything. But Korra judges herself by an impossible standard.

She's been asked repeatedly in the spirit world and elsewhere, who she considers herself to be other than just the Avatar. And she's not answered it yet. Aang ran away from his responsibilities and didn't want the power, he wanted to be himself. He had to painfully grow up into the role, including facing that he needed to murder someone. Korra has the opposite path. She has to find herself and learn to be more than a combat hero, which makes sense given the nature of the Avatar as someone who brings balance.

As for the others, yeah season 2's characterization wasn't great. But your complaint about Mako and Asami having a forced romance is out of date, they've barely interacted this season, instead both were useful, although not with major character arcs. And while Bolin is overly comic for the shows tone sometimes, he's miles more restrained than Sokka.


fluffy - 2014-08-30

I agree with takewithfood, and I'm also getting really sick of how much of a buttnugget Tenzin keeps on being. Every time he makes any sort of stride personality-wise he still ends up regressing into a pompous, arrogant asshole, and it's no wonder his siblings hate him, except his siblings are also terrible thin characterizations as well.

Season 3 of Korra was way better than seasons 1 and 2, but I almost didn't even bother to watch it. Ultimately I'm still not sure if it was worthwhile, except that it did have some amazingly-executed fight scenes. (This wasn't one of them.)

They keep on getting right on the cusp of an interesting morally-ambiguous situation but then they end up ruining it by going back to the same old shitty good-vs-evil tropes. Why doesn't Korra even briefly consider working WITH Red Lotus to find a solution that works for everyone? Why do the showrunners show how terrible and corrupt all the world governments have become but then fall back on "but anarchy is worse" sunshine and flowers resolutions? How is it that all of these deep-seated family issues can get neatly wrapped up by one simple apology and then never get brought up again? And how many times does the president of Republic City have to be a petulant asshole?

I'm still going to watch season 4 just because season 3 was BARELY good enough to keep me interested. I almost didn't watch season 3 at all, though.


Sputum - 2014-08-30

It's fine to post TV stuff here but if I don't happen to know the context to make it interesting to me I'm going to one star it.


Kabbage - 2014-08-30

Only clip of this fight out there. Either I post it as it is, or I don't.


memedumpster - 2014-08-30

Disappointed there's no Gamara.


Spaceman Africa - 2014-08-30

This ain't anime


Nominal - 2014-08-31

Never watched this but I have to get this off my chest about the original series.

*NERD RANT*

It wonderfully choreographed action sequences, and comic relief that was pretty good for a kids' show without being painful (especially how they handled the blind girl and weren't afraid to make jokes about it while treating it as an actual disability she functionally coped with).

But then it went really downhill at the end of season 2, and for the entirety of season 3. From that point on, every single crises was the result of the heroes being staggeringly stupid. Starting from how the Earth kingdom capital fell, all the way to the finale where they cook up the dumbest possible plan to win. All they had to do was beat the firelord, who was about to scorch an entire continent, but they decided to split up into a bunch of groups to attack multiple strategically unimportant targets (the evil bitch daughter and earth capital garrison) while sending the two worst possible people to take down the genocide blimps: worthless boomerang kid and blind chick who is an unmatched master of bending earth so OF COURSE send her to fight on board a flying blimp.

Two things that pissed me off the most though. They make a big deal how killing the firelord instead of risking GLOBAL GENOCIDE to capture him alive would have made them just as evil, which was total phooey. Then they shoehorn in some Bhagavad-Gita jargon telling Ang he has to let go of feelings of friendship and compassion in order to go super saiyan but he can't. This sets up a conflict where Ang must choose between ultimate power to defeat evil at the cost of everything he cares about. So what happens at the end? He gets pushed into a rock which bumps a tatoo on his back allowing him to go super saiyan.

Good job, first 2 seasons of Avatar. Fuck you, final third of Avatar.


takewithfood - 2014-08-31

I don't know, a (the) metalbender on a metal airship is pretty fucking scary. And the Katara/Zuko vs Azula agni kai scene was fantastic, if largely unnecessary.

Season 3 has some really strong episodes, but the ending really was a giant ass-pull. I gather the creators regret not taking more time to set up the whole lion turtle thing.


Caminante Nocturno - 2014-08-31

You kids still watching this? I figured after all this time, at least some of you would have grown up enough to start watching real anime.

Hey, maybe after a couple more seasons of this, you'll be able to graduate up to watching RWBY!

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


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