Lessons from the War in Iraq

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mon666ster

- 2014-09-12

So in a month, Sanders has been in favour of attacking Gaza and ISIS.

There are no good politicians.

Void 71 - 2014-09-12

A lot of otherwise sane jewish leftists lose their shit when they start talking about the middle east. Sanders is just another name to add to that list.

Bort

- 2014-09-12

ISIS is real, in the way Saddam Hussein's WMD threat wasn't. While I don't think ISIS poses a threat to us, they most definitely pose a threat to the locals in Iraq, and especially marginalized groups like the Yazidi.

Intervention isn't always a virtue, but the same is true of non-intervention.

chumbucket

- 2014-09-12

What happens when a senator starts seriously considering running for president, the crazy sets in.

SolRo - 2014-09-12

And the Kurds that the US is tripping over itself to arm are starting to ethnically cleanse that region of sunni civilians.

And it's 2004 all over again! woo!

Bort - 2014-09-12

SolRo, got a link for that? I'm looking around and, unsurprisingly enough, I'm finding tons of links about ISIL / ISIS / ODIN / whatever ethnically cleansing, but nothing about Kurds doing the same.

SolRo - 2014-09-13

NPR was covering it, and google is fucking useless for finding anything specific anymore...why yes google, I need to see the 30 OTHER blogs republishing the same AP story I don't need in the first place.

PegLegPete

- 2014-09-12

It's not only stupid and arrogant to think you can use military force to positively change a country: it's a pretty fucked up idea in the first place. We have to keep in mind these invasions aren't because our government gives a shit about innocent people. These are strategic decisions. If the government gave a shit about innocent people, we'd have been in Africa numerous times to prevent genocide. Don't forget there's oil in Iraq, it's near Israel, and near our other Gulf courtiers.

I also think it's funny that Sanders didn't even refute the "tough guy" method/image. I guess you could chalk it up to him just having a couple of minutes on TV, but it's probably just the fact that Liberals are actually about as hawkish as most conservatives on foreign policy, they're just a little smarter.

Bort - 2014-09-13

"It's not only stupid and arrogant to think you can use military force to positively change a country"

Tell that to Germany. No, you can't use military solutions to solve every problem, but when you've got a genocidal bunch of fuckheads swarming over a country, perhaps countering their military forces with our military forces (or someone's forces, anyway) is not necessarily a crazy idea.

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