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Desc:Who wants a team-based shooter with a beamgun medic, engineer, heavy weapon guy etc.?
Category:Video Games, Trailers
Tags:blizzard, TF2, The banality of modern big budget video games, forgettable, they waited how many years for this?
Submitted:Killer Joe
Date:11/07/14
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Comment count is 57
SteamPoweredKleenex
Final Team Fantasy Fortress 2.

Five for evil, meh for creativity. Blizzard doesn't seem to have much in the way of original ideas going for it.
blue vein steel
if this where Korean TF2 knock-off that it looks like, i'd actually want to play it, because it's Blizzard... it's sad, fuck them

oddeye
Fuck TF2, fuck your stupid hat collections and fuck you. FUCK IT. FUCK TF2.

This is probably shit but at least it's not TF2
misterbuns
if you suck so much at it just play a pyro, dude.

they are for people like you!

fedex
yeah, just hold down RMB and run around, it's easy!

EvilHomer
I like TF2. I have never played it, but I do know that it's basically just an excuse to post Pony SFM videos to Youtube, and that's OK by me!

Caminante Nocturno
It takes finesse and skill to properly play a pyro. You'll certainly never get the hang of it if you're too busy getting upset over hats.

SolRo
he was probably a die-hard spy player until the pyro buff patch broke his will and mind.

infinite zest
I think it looks like fun. But is it just my computer or the video or is that the actual frame rate?

Sanest Man Alive
on that note, I am disappointed by the lack of people on fire and flailing around in this video.

Jet Bin Fever
No new ideas. Not a single one.

The dialogue is laughably inept too:
"Time to reap."
"One shot, one kill."
It's like their boss encounter dialogue in WoW or something.
SteamPoweredKleenex
All that stuff reminded me of the Wildstar MMO clips that came out a while back.

On the bright side, I don't think the Chinese will be so hot to rip this game off as they were another team-based FPS.

misterbuns
there is some neat stuff in there!

it will probably be convoluted and impossible to balance.

this looks like the opposite if TF2. Complicated, forgettable, derivative design that dont develop character.

it will probably be very popular.

EvilHomer
Yeah, but what about the shadow guy who does all the Gun Kata moves? Yes, there have been creepy shadow guys before. Yeah, there have been dudes who did Gun Kata moves before. But have you ever seen a character who is BOTH a creepy shadow guy AND does Gun Kata moves? Eh? Eh? I mean, you might have, but I can't think of any off-hand.

misterbuns
that wasnt one of the neat things.

jreid
I shit you not, I read this earlier on reddit's gaming forum:

"'One shot, one kill...' I just got shivers."

People are idiots. This game is going to rake in millions.

Nominal
To be fair, TF2 did eventually become complicated and forgettable.

EvilHomer
They lost me on the sniper girl. Her name was "Widowmaker", yet they showed her shooting a female combatant...? Wouldn't that make her a Widowermaker? Or not even Not-a-Widowmaker, since presumably all of these characters are cool, young, and __unmarried__, except maybe for the dwarf, who is probably a middle-aged TFLer, I'd wager. And she only gets one shot and one kill? What, are we talking per spawn, or per match? Because if it were me, I'd want to get hundreds of shots and hundreds of kills! She must be camping in the worst spot ever. More like NOOBmaker, huh.

Shoebox Joe
@Nominal: How is that? Seems like TF2 has always had a core game mechanic with tweaks here and there.

StanleyPain
TF2 is not remotely "more complex." There are power-gamer retards who try to use the new pay-only gear in some specific way, but more often than not the classic style of play is where it's at.
Mann vs. Machine is awesome on the right servers.

fedex
Portal of Persia Fortress II!
misterbuns
the level design looks like the stuff done by render engine developers who aren't artists and are just trying to show off all the stuff their product can do

Kid Fenris
World of Assassin's Half-Halo Naruto Dungeon Dynasty Fighter!

Meerkat
Jesus Christ this is derivative. It's like they just replaced the TF2 models with WoW models and didn't even bother changing the weapons.

Why didn't they go all the way with the magic steampunk dwarf shit and do like a magic-style TF2 with some sort of rune/casting system? Collect runes and use them to power your spells or some damn thing. You could get mana from shooting random monkeys or dickie dee guys or something.
misterbuns
blizzard's whole model is to suck up as many ideas as possible, chew out any flavor that would alienate anyone and spit them back out.

poorwill
Blizzard has never been good. They have always done exactly this. They make bad, bad games and people who argue otherwise are simply wrong. Diablo is one of the worst games ever made on a pure game design level. Their art is shit, and is stolen. World of Warcraft ruined lives. People praised it for being the best-greased hamster wheel going, because people are fools. Fuck them, fuck their idiot fans. Kill.

Robin Kestrel
Yeah, but HANZO!

poorwill
"Why didn't they go all the way with the magic steampunk dwarf shit and do like a magic-style TF2 with some sort of rune/casting system?"

This is actually worse, btw. I'd have chased you out of the brainstorming meeting with a hot poker if you volunteered this shitspeck.

EvilHomer
Diablo and D2 were both fun games, and they directly inspired Borderlands. Just as Warcraft and Warcraft 2 were fun games (sort of; I personally couldn't get into the second one), and their success led in turn to all sorts of other, better series, like Red Alert.

Scrimmjob
Directly inspiring Borderlands is not a + in my mind. Diablo is great fun, but I think it's main selling point was having good graphics for the time. Everything about it had basically been done a decade earlier. I'm a sword of fargoal man myself.

poorwill
Diablo is actually terrible, fyi.

jreid
So bad. And the gaming forums are just gushing about this.

The cinematic trailer is even more horrible - completely aping late 00's Dreamworks style:

http://kotaku.com/blizzard-announces-overwatch-1656048978

(first vid)
That guy
if you really want to have some fun, go criticize it coherently and then check back in later and read the zealous rebuttals

fluffy
At least someone finally added Threewave CTF's grappling hook back in. I missed that.
Meerkat
I still really really miss vanilla ctf on the Q2 single player levels. That was the most fun ever.

jreid
Q2 CTF was a pinnacle of distilled video game fun that I don't think we'll ever really see the likes of again.

I actually chilled with Zoid at a lan party and there are probably 4 or 5 people on earth who would be impressed with that.

Retardo Montebaun
Wait a minute, isn't that an old unreal tournament map?
SolRo
No. Blizzard did it first.

Gmork
Boring. Ignore.
Caminante Nocturno
Nothing ever happens on Mars.

cognitivedissonance
You guys hate fun.

I like the idea of a game of WoW first person PVP. That's what this is. There's an iteration for every class.
SolRo
Classes like Valve's Engineer.

They even lifted the crit mode after turret destruction that TF2 has with one of the engineer shotguns.

craptacular
in this game, it won't be hats you collect, it'll be companion pets that follow you around. and either you wait for them to drop, or you can go online to the blizzard store to purchase your favorite WoW pets for each! and every holiday they'll post an extra special holiday themed pet for !!

if this game is successful, it will be due solely to brand name recognition.

Shoebox Joe
@Solro. Where'd you get that from? The glowing bit is an ultimate ability. Even lists it on the webpage. Doesn't even add damage.

How ever, they did try to do a Pixar cinematic.

http://youtu.be/FqnKB22pOC0

I do like some of the quirks they have added game play wise such as the flying and climbing walls, but I don't think they really add much strategy. With the way they got the classes separated into groups, most likely you'll just watch for them on the platforms that you can't reach.

Shoebox Joe
However, they did give the medic the ability to boost a player's damage. So yeah, they did take that.

Shoebox Joe
Aww fuck me, not Pixar, but I guess Disney's "Frozen" with face style on the kids.

StanleyPain
Not only is this basically Team Fortress 2, but the art style seems insanely ripped off from the MMO shooter Firefall. (which I've been playing the last few months)
American Standard
Why are any of your surprised Blizzard is unoriginal?

Innovation has never been Blizzard's thing. Refinement has. They didn't make the first MMO; they didn't even make the first fantasy MMO.

Their game has always been taking reasonably popular shit other people did first and freebasing it into an ultra-addictive concentrate.
Shoebox Joe
I think this is the game where they'll lost their niche for make ultra addicting shit. The game play mechanics are really looking incredibly gimmicky and I would not be surprised in the least if it burned up into obscurity days after it's released.

oddeye
This looks a lot like that other game
Billy the Poet
No, the ENGINEER is Scottish. It's completely different!
poorwill
http://i.imgur.com/oomyzMS.gif

look at her butt as her goggles go on
Shoebox Joe
I actually thought that was a joke until I saw the specific game play video for the character.

http://youtu.be/fvPp6XbbTb0?t=1m

Shoebox Joe
Each time I look at the character line-up, I can't help but hope the design devs get fired. It's like they took what diversive elements they could find from Borderlands and in a moment of weakness, huffed gasoline to brave through the tension and say "it's done".
dairyqueenlatifah
So its TF2 at 15 frames per second?
Shoebox Joe
It's not the official channel. I don't know why a let's play channel has it up on their piece of youtube, but a link to official channel's video is in the annotations.

Shoebox Joe
(Note: the video I linked to for what ever reason seems to be choppy as the video on this page. A video on a different character (Bastion) seemed to have a smoother playback.)

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