Have...you ever BEEN to Minnesota? If you don't care about living in the big city or freezing winters, then it's really hard to beat an area like that with easy going folks.

Try living in any red state or the rural areas of blue states, THEN tell me that Minnesota is a horrible place.

Minnesota's rad. I went to the rival university in Wisconsin (sorry, I think we still have your Paul Bunyan axe back or whatever it is we fight about.) I grew up in Portland but my grandparents lived right on the mississippi and there's really no place like the Twin Cities. I went to Prince's house when I was out there. And cold-as-fuck as it gets, it still has more bicyclists per capita than Portland. Also, The Replacements.

Oh COME ON. Is that true Binro? Link please?

http://mashable.com/2014/11/07/pointergate/

Hahahaha. I was just defending Minneapolis in general, not the news station for reporting this. I'd be more outraged if I couldn't stop laughing at the pictures.

Parts of the south may be bad, but at least it ain't Minnesota aka frozen hellhole where nothing interesting ever happens the Twins suck fuck the Vikings fuck F. Scott Fitzgerald.

I think Paul Westerberg summed it up pretty perfectly in an interview I read once: it's so balls-freezingly cold there that you can't really do much else except make music, or art, or whatever it is you do. Some of my favorite music comes from the midwest as a result, but Wisconsin was cold enough for me, which was a humid 10 degrees oF on a day when Minneapolis' was probably negative 20. I'm bitching right now because it's 50 and raining :)

I guess the same could be said for the south, except substitute "Most people are so fucking stupid it hurts the heart" for "ball-freezingly cold". Also tornadoes.

Actually, I miss tornadoes.

yea, looks like a hitpiece.

Place his scalp next to Gorbachev's and we'll finally have a map to Shangri-La.

I say we make them 69. That would be highly erotic, right?

lol they need to eat some DONUTS right??

Cryptkeeper Gorbachev ran the peoples house of state sanctioned scares in the fifties, always wondered what he was up to now.

Calling a pig a pig isn't childish. Picking apart the vernacular however, certainly is.

If they don't want to be called pigs, they shouldn't act like pigs.

Old People isn't saying that you shouldn't use the word, morons. He's stating that you should use the word with caution unless you want to pointlessly dehumanize people.

trustafarian college kids and criminals: the poetv user base

Also, I stand by my characterization of all the "outraged" cops in this video.

Thank you, Shoebox.

Generalizations aside, it always strikes me as incredibly dated and goofy. And I don't know why picking apart vernacular would be considered "childish."

"Cryptkeeper Gorbachev"

@Potrod

"And I don't know why picking apart vernacular would be considered "childish.""

-Angry, petty and resentful high school/middle school kids who feel they're being repressed socially and take their anger way too seriously
-Anyone who defends their usage of slurs in lieu of not receiving the social consequences of looking like bigots/total shit
-Religious, Fundie evangelicals seeking political power
-Anyone who stakes a claim while ignoring the ambiguity of situations

Related words include spinster, doctoring and in a way cognitive dissonance (not the poster)

@Ashtar

I have no problem with your position of calling these angry, deluded chumps "pigs". The news station is pretty much dragging them down with them in such a manner that would make Wally George get a hard on. I'm just agreeing and backing up Old People for reminding folks about the toxic nature that unfortunately follows about that word

*those sort of words

Referring to police as pigs is dumb and inaccurate because pigs are actually nice and useful animals.

He's got even more street cred now.

"He".

Are you blind, or do you just comment on things you haven't seen?

#POINTERGAMERGATE

I'm guessing he just read Mayor, Black Man and Gang Sign and immediately thought "Oh, another story about Rob Ford".

I thought this was going to be about Rob Ford, too.

That's the name of the gang. It stands for "Violator(s) Of The Establishment"

According to this, the chief of police was cropped out of the photo.

but are they sexy ducks?

Yes, but they're very sensitive to being stereotyped.

Absolutely BUT when they have the power to kill your pets, subject you to anal probes and smash your face in on a whim then it's hard to see the good cop underneath.

Not all cops!

If that were true you'd think they'd care more about the supposed "bad apples" giving them all a bad name. One might expect all of these good cops to express more worry about Piggie brutality and the growth of the police state.

Dude, this is POETV. How is it that nobody has called you a BOOTLICKER yet?

Whatever your job is, if the the boss is imposing additional supervision on you, it's a safe bet you're going to resent it. Especially if you've been on the job for 20 years, and the boss is a (possibly) first term elected official. That seems more human than porcine to me. But what you have here talking shiot about the mayor isn't exactly "police". It's the President of the Police Union, who is probably protecting his own fiefdom, and an old retired guy with age spots on his head.

What's funny is that the station's defense is essentially that they just repeated what their sources told them. It tells you a lot about present day journalism that they consider this a defense.

My dad was a Newspaper reporter for 40 years. You'd never see him, or anyone he worked with, repeat rumors like this without checking them. Today's reporters aren't always to blame. They're at the mercy of huge corporations and shifting technology. They' re being given less, and told to produce more. Something's got to give, and that something is quality.

The reporter here, however, really seems to be legitimately dumber than a box of dirt.

>>If that were true you'd think they'd care more about the supposed "bad apples" giving them all a bad name. One might expect all of these good cops to express more worry about Piggie brutality and the growth of the police state.

Unless the bad apples were rising to take charge of the whole barrel. Damn you for not giving me a metaphor I could work with.

Asianhick raises a good point. Most vets I know are more than willing to call foul on American military policy, if and when our behaviour warrants it, and all of them do not hesitate to speak out against individual abuses, from Abu Ghraib to My Lai. College staff voice concerns about the universities they work at, teachers complain about the course of modern education, reporters and their children bemoan the fall of journalism, bankers and firemen and professional buskers are not afraid to gripe about other bankers and firemen and professional buskers. Hell, even the NSA and the CIA, groups that set the gold standard for secrecy and solidarity, are replete with whistleblowers and conscientious objectors.

Yet where are all the cops protesting the growth of the prison state?

Well, I'm not trying to let cops off the hook. Maybe he does raise a good point, but in the wrong place. We were talking about how most cops are "pretty nice people that sincerely believe in protecting innocent people from violent sociopaths". I don't think a reluctance to criticize the accumulation of police power contradicts that, and I don't think most of the examples you've given really apply. Veterans, for example, aren't as applicable as troops who are still on duty, and then maybe it gets tougher.

There may be some problems inherent in police culture that need to be addressed, and I'm glad this mayor is addressing them. This is what's called for. I'm just saying that, as a group, they aren't pigs. I think science will back me up on this.

Cops don't stay cops for life; sooner or later, they quit or they retire, which makes these cops "veterans", after a fashion. And furthermore, while it's certainly true that vets have freer reign to shoot their mouths off than active duty personnel (for moral as well as legal reasons), doesn't that just make the deafening silence from the Good Cop union all the *more* absurd? US military personnel have a TON of pressures on them to tow the line and keep things on the DL. Not only do you not snitch on your battles as a matter of basic etiquette, you can actually face prison time, legally face prison time, possibly even twice for the same offense, merely for being a bit of a grouch in public. If you are active duty Marine, for example (happy birthday, guys!) and you show up at an anti-war rally in your uniform, you can and probably will face severe UCMJ action. Hell, if you show up at a *Dennys* and hand out fliers to passersby, telling them to "Eat at Dennys! It's the Patriot's Choice!" you can be UCJMed. But to the best of my knowledge, cops cannot be arrested for saying that they wish their friends would stop shooting unarmed black people.

If I'm wrong on that, if cops have their own Uniform Code of Coppy Justice that forbids them from saying that *maybe* their fellow Heroes shouldn't be buying tanks and shooting puppy-dogs in front of terrified six year-old children, then please let me know so I can have something else to be mad about.