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Desc:This Muppet Babies follow-up lasted only three episodes.
Category:Cartoons & Animation, Educational
Tags:Muppets, monsters, Jim Henson
Submitted:Kid Fenris
Date:05/29/15
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EvilHomer - 2015-05-30
Time Cube at 4:23.
EvilHomer - 2015-05-30
So I was looking on the Muppet Wiki for information, both about this show and about the Little Monsters themselves, when I discovered a rather glaring problem: Muppet identification. Is there a good system in place with which to facilitate the identification of unknown Muppets? Because if the Muppet fandom has such a resource available, I have yet to locate it.

I will give you an example: the MLP fandom has an exceptional pony identification system over at the official MLP Wikia. e.g. { http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_ponies/Pegasus_ponies }. This crowd-sourced "List of Ponies" is fully categorized and broken down by things like pony type, pony gender, mane, flank, or eye color, and when/where the pony first appeared. There are some links to Reddit, which is particularly useful for obscure, either unnamed or fan-named background ponies (thanks, Reddit fans of Boysenberry!). It even includes thumbnail images of each pony, so you can tell at a glance if the pony listed is the one you're interested in, without having to click on his or her full Wiki entry! This is an e̲x̲c̲e̲l̲l̲e̲n̲t̲ resource, and it allows fans to quickly and easily identify any pony characters they see.

It seems to me that a system like this would be immensely useful for the Muppet fandom, which boasts even more characters than MLP does (Muppet.wikia lists over 2800 characters, and they are obviously missing a great many more, as for example the entry about Molly, the Little Muppet Monster, is broken and redirects to a totally different character). But... does such a system exist?

The closest I can find is Wikipedia's "List of Muppets", although that entry is incomplete, and poorly organized. Muppet.Wikia's "List of Characters" category is more exhaustive, but, like all Wiki-style Category searches, it is next to useless (Category searches are terrible unless the category either has a small number of entries (

EvilHomer - 2015-05-30
< 20, in my experience), or you know precisely what it is you are looking for already.)

sasazuka - 2015-05-30
Frank "Fred from Scooby-Doo" Welker's performance as Kermit the Frog in the animated bits of this episode was probably the very first official "Wrong-Sounding Kermit", and, unlike other "Wrong-Sounding Kermit"s, Frank Welker was "Wrong-Sounding Kermit" while Jim Henson was still alive.

(I know Frank Welker is also the voice of Baby Kermit on MUPPET BABIES, which started a year earlier than LITTLE MUPPET MONSTERS, but I consider Baby Kermit to be almost like a separate character, so Frank Welker-voiced Baby Kermit is "Right-Sounding Baby Kermit".)
infinite zest - 2015-05-30
Yeah I watched way more Muppet Babies than Muppet Show and I've only really watched the first two movies once or maybe twice, so Baby Kermit was always right sounding Kermit. Never knew that Henson did the voice of Kermit either though.

Also holy shit! Welker's been in over 700 things! Like, as starring roles. I know it's a little easier for voice actors since they don't have to do make up and stuff like regular actors, but often those with a lot of credits (like the wonderful Christopher Lee) are only there for a second or two, and are greenscreened, etc.. still counts as a credit. A very low estimate for the time Welker's voice has actually been in a finished product is like 21,000 hours. Jinkies.

sasazuka - 2015-05-30
I should probably point out that the original voice of Baby Kermit in THE MUPPETS TAKE MANHATTAN was Steve Whitmire, who has been the voice behind Kermit the Frog proper since 1992.

But Frank Welker was Baby Kermit for 107 episodes of MUPPET BABIES whilst Steve Whitmire was really only Baby Kermit for a segment of a single movie that lasted 4 minutes, so Welker is easily the definitive Baby Kermit as far as I'm concerned.

sasazuka - 2015-05-30
Incidentally, the "adult" Muppets in the live-action segments really were voiced by their original puppeteers, according to the Muppet Wiki. The reason they don't appear on the same set as the Little Muppet Monsters is that the adult Muppets were filmed in London while the Monsters set was filmed in New York.

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