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Desc:A better memorial, more zoe, less Motherfucker! Music chosen from her Facebook faves
Category:Pets & Animals, Crime
Tags:neutral milk hotel, facebook, lostmoreorcs, zoe Anderson
Submitted:John Holmes Motherfucker
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Comment count is 41
baleen - 2015-06-04
This is so sad.
infinite zest - 2015-06-04
This is also one of my favorite songs, and was played with a string quartet at my wedding. Both tributes are beautiful; it's rare to find a community, online or in real life, that is filled with so much love, evil portal or not. Love you all.
Bort - 2015-06-04
This is the song that gets me:


I remain astonished at the simple genius of guys like Warren Zevon, who can take a simple unadorned line like "keep me in your heart for a while" and elevate it to poetry. You could try very hard to be eloquent and never touch that.

infinite zest - 2015-06-04
When it's all said and done, Warren Zevon and Townes Van Zandt will be remembered as the two greatest American singer songwriters. I've been listening to Life'll Kill Ya a lot recently, an album of his I sort of neglected for years.


Zevon's also the only artist I can think of that literally did a swan song's worth of songs for his final album; he knew he was going to die and it didn't seem to bother him that much. And why should it?

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-06-04
That really is beautiful, but I can never listen to anything from Zevon without immediately needing to listen to Lawyers, Guns and Money 2 or 3 times.

infinite zest - 2015-06-04
Jeff Magnum's up there too though.. Personally I'd just start with "Live at Jittery Joe's" though this is not popular opinion.

yogarfield - 2015-06-04
i'd like to think that she'd hate this
John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-06-04
Well, apparently she liked the first one!

thank you

Tuki here and as I stated earlier I have changed the password to the orcs account with the blessing of several of Zoe's closest friends in an attempt to stifle some of the venomous aggression coming from the actual street kids who surrounded Julia at the time of her death, I am assuming most of them are in New Orleans still as that area is notoriously sticky because of the relatively good money and cheap, fat foils of high grade dope. But MORESO I have to say holy shit because although I'm sure no one will believe me, I have no idea where the above "thank you" could have come from because it did not come from me and I sincreley can't figure someone would be able to guess the new one as it is an old variant of an ancient AIM password I used to use plotsmoreorcs

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-06-04
Bullshit, right?

(shrugs) I don't know what to think, but the process of making this second video was so incredibly random that it feels like she collaborated. PLEASE NOTE: I'm not saying that's what happened, I'm saying that's what it feels like.

I made virtually no decisions. I don't understand how photos are organized in facebook, so I clicked around in confused circles downloading until I had what felt like enough photos. I used a renaming program to put them in completely random order. Did anyone notice how the ominous picture of the guy in the jason mask with a knife comes right at the end, second to last, as the last chord plays? Wish I could take credit for that. It just happened.

The most amazing thing was that song. Originally, before I realized she'd listed her favorite bands, I was gonna go with "Sweet Jane".
Zoe had something like four bands listed as her favorites. I didn't know any of them, though I'd heard the name "DANZIG" before. So I figured I'd have to do some searching. So to start, I picked a band at random, (Neutral Milk Hotel seemed like it might have the Velvet Underground vibe I was looking for.) I searched youtube, picked a title I liked and BOOM the fucking perfect song was the first song I tried, It was ten times better than what I was planning.

The upbeat tempo of the slides that goes so well with the music happened when I speeded up the video so it would run the same length as the song.

EvilHomer - 2015-06-04
>> I didn't know any of them, though I'd heard the name "DANZIG" before.

?!?! You've merely "heard the name" Danzig? Jesus John, how old ARE you?!

I'm still working on that tribute - I've scrapped it twice now - but I found myself listening to a lot of Johnny Hobo and The Freight Trains as I was working at it. I'm not sure if Zoe liked Johnny Hobo at all, but they're pretty popular with homeless kids from my part of the country; my IRL crustie friend used to follow them around, and their lyrics are quite poignant, particularly given the subject matter. Here's one of their better songs, to give you some idea -


EvilHomer - 2015-06-04
And here's some lines from "New Mexico Song", which was about as close to a radio hit as they ever got:

"Until the day my friend
When I sleep on the floor of your van again

I'll be waiting in this parking lot,
And in my dreams, I am dirty, broke, beautiful, and free.
My hands clenched in a fist, and my face in a smile,
after hitching too many miles."

RIP, Zoe. :(

Bort - 2015-06-04
"i'd like to think that she'd hate this"

Perhaps she'd be amused that the second last photo is a killer with a knife?

lotsmoreorcs - 2015-06-04
zoe hated repeat HATED Danzig she did like NMH though but her favorite song was gardenhead leave me alone which was a big money maker when she had a guitar. I have to one star this in the essence of her honor but I really did not type the thank you! Great job, John! If there ever was a time for the getting one starred as an abject lesson tag....😄

EvilHomer - 2015-06-04
>> zoe hated repeat HATED Danzig

Oh, thank God.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-06-04
Well, she did mention Danzig in her list of favorites. As I see now, she actually listed 97 artists and bands, a super eclectic mix from Dead Kennedys to Hank Williams, but apparently some of them were meant as a joke.

lotsmoreorcs - 2015-06-04
She probably liked it to troll the boards she was really into trolling

lotsmoreorcs - 2015-06-04
As I said before her ultimate design with Poe was originally to just get JHMF to tattoo his face but it evolved into her wanting to get DIE JHMF after she started watching his videos, out of some weird sort of reverence of bizarre infatuation don't listen to those assholes John you did the right thing. I am just learning this now from the kids she was actually with who don't quite travel in the same circle as I do too aggressive and schwilly. Just so everyone knows I will post some confirmation pics soon just to assure everyone that I'm not a wow nerd or angry lesbian variant as Gmork hilariously suggested

yogarfield - 2015-06-04
orcs do you know when she was in birmingham last? i'm pretty sure she was friends with people i know there, because i swear i saw her at a party when i was there in december.

lotsmoreorcs - 2015-06-04
She liked Birmingham and had a good friend there so it's very probable, Birmingham has a really good hop out that can take you to the cincy yard which you can take north or west

yogarfield - 2015-06-04
pretty easy to hop on off of morris ave. i'm a fucking housie now, but maybe someday i'll travel again.

tempted to drop names, but don't wanna dox myself. i know loads of folks in bham, atl, memphis, nola and pcola and starting to think we know a lot of the same people.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-06-04
>>As I said before her ultimate design with Poe was originally to just get JHMF to tattoo his face.

What the FUCK? I must have missed that.

>>but it evolved into her wanting to get DIE JHMF after she started watching his videos, out of some weird sort of reverence of bizarre infatuation

Really! I don't know what half of that means but now that she's dead, I have a weird sort of reverence for her. There's nothing you could tell me that could make me happier than hearing she watched my videos.

For those who don't know, Zoe was always pretty abusive to me, for whatever reason. It's nice to know that she didn't entirely hate me, but it's better to know that she liked my videos, that something I did actually reached her in some way.

What she did that reached me was die.

She could be difficult, no doubt about that, but that's no longer an issue. Nobody has to worry about getting along with her any more.

Chancho - 2015-06-04
"She could be difficult, no doubt about that, but that's no longer an issue. Nobody has to worry about getting along with her any more."

Ha ha ha ha! Unbelievable.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-06-05
Believe it.

EvilHomer - 2015-06-05
"For those who don't know, Zoe was always pretty abusive to me, for whatever reason. It's nice to know that she didn't entirely hate me, but it's better to know that she liked my videos, that something I did actually reached her in some way."

Oh, boo-hoo-hoo. I was against the comments Hooker made last night, but WATCH IT, Mr Holmes!

I guess getting into a passive-aggressive slap fight with a ghost is a fitting tribute, given your history together, but for fucks sake your tributes have been going so well up until now, don't ruin everything at the last minute.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-06-05
I don't know what a passive aggressive slap fight is. Let me just say this: There are moments in life that are so full of beautiful surprise that they make up for the disappointments, and this is one of those moments. What Tuki told me was an amazing surprise, and I never would have known about it if I hadn't taken it upon myself to do this. I'm not going to try again to wexplain how that makes me feel, but no boo-hooing is required. The best word I can think of is "awe".I'm not willing to discuss it further.

lotsmoreorcs - 2015-06-06
So John would you consider an ORCS Tat the street community wants to know

EvilHomer - 2015-06-06
>>So John would you consider an ORCS Tat

He'd fucking better!

Another user, Infinite Zest, owes us an Orcs tattoo, as well. I don't think he's got it yet. Let him know what it should be.

lotsmoreorcs - 2015-06-07
just "ORCS" or "ZOE" but probably just ORCS

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-06-04
The mystery is what happened to Gabe. The guy in the pictures is NOT the guy who stabbed her. I believe that's Gabe. Zoe's last Facebook post proclaiming her love for Gabe was in early 2015, maybe as late as February, but by mid-March she was involved with the man who would be her murderer, at least according to article I read.
lotsmoreorcs - 2015-06-10
Gabe is ok, they split over Zoe's increasing alcohol and heroin intake and his decision to step away was pretty openly stated that he was not willing to self destruct with her, which miles was unfortunately more than willing to aid right down to wielding the knife that cut her down. I know Gabe recently got a couple changes to his face tats to include some memorial stuff which included him and at least three others getting ORCS under their left eye, I chickened out cause I have yet to take the face tat plunge but I got ORCS and ZOE on either tit. Avenues of entertainment and information are very limited on the road and I know for a fact that her involvement with this community offered a great deal of respite from the harder more unpleasant times. Anyways I just wanted to drop in with a tattoo memorial update, I will try and put some pics up as soon as possible.

Hooker - 2015-06-04
Probably the most awful, tragic story in poeTV's history. So, naturally, JHM tries to make it about himself.
John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-06-04
Really? It sort of seems like YOURE making it about me. Why don't you just STFU?

Bort - 2015-06-04
Hooker, when JHMF says that he doesn't want these videos to be about him, you know what he's trying to say as politely as he can? "Hooker, refrain from being an asshole just this once."

Chocolate Jesus - 2015-06-04
oh shut up, this is the least worst thing johnny has ever done

Chancho - 2015-06-04
What is this horseshit about, really? The only thing I remember her posting is a fat homeless guy rapping about eating out of a dumpster.
John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-06-04
Who the hell are you?

lotsmoreorcs - 2015-06-04
She had a pretty good run of submissions including the now defunct legendary x men days of future past leaked trailer that was just wolverine dropping a sheet in front of his penis

Chocolate Jesus - 2015-06-04
read her comments

Chancho - 2015-06-04
Set these videos to the dumpster rap and you might have something interesting.

StanleyPain - 2015-06-05
Don't cut yourself on that EDGE!

lotsmoreorcs - 2015-06-07
44 mediocre submissions, didnt exactly set the world on fire didja jackie

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