*STEENKS

Jay Sherman doesn't say "steenks". Perhaps you are confusing it with the comedic stylings of children's entertainer Jeff Dunham.

Didn't Seth try this "LET'S DO A POLITICS SHOW" approach with American Dad? It was originally sold as Liberal Daughter VS Conservative Father, and that angle lasted like four episodes before it just became about the alien doing wacky random stuff.

How many episodes before the immigration angle is completely discarded and we're just left with a show about two dumb fat guys vomiting on things?

I don't see the problem with shows jettisoning their premise. Aqua Teen Hunger Force did that after like 3 episodes and it's usually pretty awesome. Or it was, back when I watched it.

But this show.... WTF MacFarlane? I usually find his stuff oddly watchable... sort of a guilty pleasure. But this is pure shit. I... I don't understand what he was going for here. I have a feeling he doesn't know either.

I guess it should be noted that MacFarlane is executive producer and not creator like he was with FG and AD (and even the Cleveland Show) which might explain the different style and tone.. what they're doing letting a Family Guy writer do their own show is beyond me though. Bets on how long this lasts?

It's like if the stereotypical mexican characters from Squidbillies mated with the ugliest people in the Bob's Burgers universe.

rick and morty fan i see

It's the golden age of non network television. The networks are sinking fast.

The "Golden Age of Television" that people are referring to is the TV that comes closest to 1970s American film. It's the stuff on cable.

The networks, by comparison, are putting out stuff that comes close to 1970s American TV - celebrities dancing and crappy sitcoms.

What's television?

There are always a few.. I was never a big Arrested Development fan but I understand why so many people were, and since I was working at a house that didn't have cable I watched a lot of Backstrom. Maybe I'm a bit biased because it takes place in Portland (but inexplicably filmed in Vancouver BC which is more expensive to film in) but it reminded me of an HBO show stuck on a network station. It was replaced by a show where people try to hit targets by being shot out of cannons and such. Guess which one got renewed?

more like a golden shower of television because piss

what if... *wipes brow* what if... king of the hill and that jalapeno puppet on a stick were in a buddy cop movie

beans on a cracker

we'll be "wetback" after these messages from our sponsors

I have no doubt that Jeff Dunham will be lining up to this shit for a guest spot. Maybe the jalapeno can have adventures with a wacky talking lesbian chupacabra!

also I realize I unwittingly called out to you, possibly as a subconscious cry for help. Good job, ugh.

it's okay im just a much less charismatic version of beetlejuice

I'm not sure if he's shitty, but maybe he surprised himself at how low the comedy bar needs to be for a successful show, so he just phones it in.

LOL!

That would be funny! Maybe Brian will be there too! They should have him drinking tequila! And the tequila bottle should also be a character! Just think of the laughter!

And then he makes a fart sound at the end and there's a silent moment...for laughter!!!

opps, dupe post!

I'm OK with Family Guy. I think a lot of the criticism leveled against it is valid, and it's probably my least favorite of the major "adult" cartoon shows (Simpsons, Futurama, South Park, Bob's Burgers, etc) but I loved it as a teenager, and despite not aging well, I would never say I "hate" Family Guy.

I tried watching American Dad. I think I've seen like eight episodes; I laughed precisely once the entire time, and that was at a sight gag involving furries. And The Cleveland Show, I saw the premier episode, and couldn't bring myself to watch it even a second time!


You make a good point about the animation style, Mr Pete. I was going to remark that the character designs look vaguely Bob's Burgers-esque; the lumpy heads and body proportions, in particular, strike me as a hybrid of traditional Family Guy and BB art styles. It looks really ugly, much uglier than either Family Guy or Bob's Burgers on their own. It also seems really flat, with washed-out colours and half-assed backgrounds that the characters blend into. Normally I'd say, it's the pilot, things will get better with time, but at this point I'm not willing to give anything Seth MacFarlane does the benefit of the doubt.

I've only seen a handful of Cleveland Shows, but I did appreciate how "regular sitcom" it was in comparison to FG. No real for-shock moments or constant flashbacks, just kind of a regular show, like a slightly zanier King of the Hill. I also like how MacFarlane, at some point must've said "fuck it let's throw in a talking bear that he works with."

American Dad's the best out of the three. The one where Stan gets the family a dog is one of the most touching things I've seen on any animated program (it's also really gross and fucked up but it finds balance in the two somehow perfectly.) I mean, there's far better stuff to spend your time watching in this world, but if you're ever stranded at a hotel with basic cable and there's nothing else on..