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Oktay - 2015-12-12

So, you guys heard that new theory about Jar Jar? Dang me if it doesn't make sense. And screw you Lucas for messing it up, it would have been awesome. (Not saying anything else, in case it turns out to be a spoiler. If you don't know and want to find out, search for Jar Jar on reddit, it's a post from around mid November with a gazillion upvotes.)

Also: the whole "I have a theory, here's a 10,000 word essay with references and videos" thing feels like viral marketing to me.

StanleyPain - 2015-12-12

It's bullshit. Lucas wanted Jar Jar to be the connecting character in the prequels same as C3PO and R2 were in the originals. It was his idea for a new comic relief and someone who witnesses all the events, but he basically scrapped him after the reception in the first one. (I think Jar Jar being mostly removed from the prequels is probably the sole example of someone in Lucasfilm actually standing up to Lucas and telling him "No....just no." )

misterbuns - 2015-12-12

There's no way Lucas planned to have Jar Jar be a evil.

Nothing in Lucas' films work like that. It is so far away from how the films are structured.

This is similar to that myth that the Death Star attack in A New Hope was a Freudian parable about insemination.

People that come up with these theories have way too much free time and no understanding about how the films they are talking about got developed.

infinite zest - 2015-12-12

Naw, Jar Jar sold too many toys and was too marketable to become evil, or at least that was the intent. Darth Vader could eventually do the right thing in the face of an evil greater than his own, but from a toy perspective he was always the bad guy in a fight against a headless He-Man (my parents didn't buy us many toys growing up.) But I do think that Jar Jar was meant for something bigger, like a Sith lord that wasn't necessarily playing for either team, or something like that.. which would've been cool but Jar Jar would be as old as or older than Quai Gon Gin by the seventh episode so it seems stupid to bring him back anyway.

yogarfield - 2015-12-12

seriously requesting "im just so tired of all these star wars" tag. i could not give less of a shit about this movie / franchise.

That guy - 2015-12-12

my main purpose on this site is to 1-star star wars shit

everything else is just stops along the way

infinite zest - 2015-12-12

God, I had completely forgotten about the "Wacky Races" announcers' commentary. It's been pointed out by others that a "50s nostalgia diner" makes no sense, but it's no more out of place than the Cantina in episode 4 really, sort of making a parallel to our own galaxy, but the announcers just feel like somebody's really bad idea for a joke that belongs no where ever.

Old_Zircon - 2015-12-12

Seconding "im just so tired of all these star wars" tag.

I appreciate this because it looks like Star Wars if Neil Cicierega was the art director.

BUT, I did watch the fan-restored original 1977 theatrical cut a few year ago and it held up really well. It's hard to look past the mountain of cultural baggage it has now but the first two movies really were good.

infinite zest - 2015-12-12

Yeah, back in college I bought the "complete" Star Wars from some guy on eBay for 20 bucks. It was all 3 laserdisc versions converted to DVD, pretty much every extra and TV special you could think of, including C3PO's random stop on Sesame Street (and the outtakes) and the list goes on and on. A special "extra" DVD was just a Revenge of the Sith Camrip and that's still the only version I've seen. I still don't think Star Wars was that great of a movie, or a franchise, but all of those extras really put it into perspective for me.

Old_Zircon - 2015-12-12

Way more entertaining than the finished product, I'd love to see the whole movie in this style.

Scrotum H. Vainglorious - 2015-12-12

Meesssaa agree too!

urbanelf - 2015-12-12

Jeeze... this shit could have been made in the 90s.

Doc Victor - 2015-12-12

This is what theatergoers saw in Azerbaijan.

gravelstudios - 2015-12-12

It makes me yearn for a prequel to Turkish Start Wars.

Sebulba looked better as puppet.

Old_Zircon - 2015-12-12

Brazilian Star Wars is the best Star Wars.

Old_Zircon - 2015-12-12


Bort - 2015-12-12

I feel so bad for Jake Lloyd: what must it be like to receive so much animosity by the time you're 12, and it's not even your fault. About the only other kid who caught half that shit was Alison Argrim, who played Nellie Olsen and used to get yelled at by adults on the street.

Jake Lloyd and Alison Argrim are welcome at my place any time, where I will feed them and give them piggyback rides until they feel good about themselves again.

Spaceman Africa - 2015-12-12

He apparently has schizophrenia now so life has not been the kindest to Jake Lloyd.

dairyqueenlatifah - 2015-12-12

This movie literally ruined his life, devastating his childhood and killing his acting career, according to him anyway, and according to his mom it quite literally drove him crazy. He even started going by a different last name in hopes that people would stop finding out who he was.

On the other hand, he's probably still living off the royalties from it.

infinite zest - 2015-12-12

Yeah I always felt bad for him. He just seems like he's excited to be there like he won a contest or something. I pretty much gave up acting for a long time after I fucked up and started laughing uncontrollably in a monologue at a small community theatre when I was around his age, and "having ruined christmas for everyone", as said by one old bitch, was enough to usher in at least 10 years of stage fright and anxiety for me. Imagining that sentiment from hundreds of millions of people throughout the world just boggles my little mind.

That being said, he sort of avoided the child star bullet at the same time, like the one that hit the Corys and Culkins. He could probably slide right back into serious adult acting if he wanted to: like, remember that chubby red haired kid from The Sandlot? I turned out going to a party at his house of all things back in Milwaukee where he was attending theatre studies, and now he's got a pretty impressive resume, the stigma of being "that kid" not really impeding on his career.

M-DEEM - 2015-12-12

The idea of adult people hating real life actors, especially children, for characters they've played is so mindblowingly stupid I almost can't believe it.

misterbuns - 2015-12-12


My boyfriend went to college with Jake Lloyd. He was actually in the same dorm as him.

He was constantly bullied about being in those movies. He did not adjust well.

Things are very bad for him.

Old_Zircon - 2015-12-12

I kind of feel like allowing anyone under maybe 14 to being a Hollywood actor is borderline abusive.

infinite zest - 2015-12-12

I actually think that he was better than Hayden Christensen when he took over the role. Like I said he was just himself. I'll be fucked if I watch The Phantom Menace again but it was a lot more real than the child actors who have been trained to act brooding, quirky, whatever.

I know I posted it on here before but my M&Ms commercial was as close to the spotlight as I'd ever want to be, all one and a half seconds of it. And I was tripping balls and so was my roommate, who did most of the work. But even that little "I was in a commercial once that millions of people saw" was enough to get me cast for a season of Portlandia as an extra. Being the "I was the Star Wars Kid" when you've been mostly anonymous for the past decade seems like a pretty good in to me.

dairyqueenlatifah - 2015-12-13

Counter point: Patrick Renna became a Scientologist.

Bort - 2015-12-13

You know how people like to say "George Lucas ruined my childhood"? Well Jake Lloyd's got a better claim to that than anyone.

misterbuns - 2015-12-12

Fuck doing post vis is so much fun.

I know this movie is shit but it would have been fun to develop this sequence.

kingarthur - 2015-12-13

Now THIS is pod racing.

Now *this* is pod racing.

Now "this" is pod racing.

Now: this is pod racing.

NOW! thiiiiiiiis is pod racing!

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