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Desc:Real-life dystopian science fiction
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Tags:China, dystopia, alibaba
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Binro the Heretic - 2016-01-14
After the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, the Chinese government began a huge propaganda campaign painting all dissent as the result of shame.

People who spoke against the government were said to have been corrupted by "Western influences".

Allowing oneself to be corrupted by Western influences meant you were not proud of China.

Not being proud of China meant you were not proud of yourself.

And it fucking worked.

I am simultaneously impressed and horrified.
Kennifu - 2017-07-16
Yes - there's a very good book on how the CPC changed its narrative from international socialism to nationalism.

Which is a sick alteration of history since a major reason the Chicoms was able to overthrow the Republic of China was by taking advantage of the Japanese invasion in WWII.

Never Forget National Humiliation: Historical Memory in Chinese Politics and Foreign Relations (Contemporary Asia in the World)
https://www.amazon.com/Never-Forget-National-Humiliation-Conte mporary-ebook/dp/B008Z1PUOM/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1500224 585&sr=1-1&keywords=never+forget+national+humiliation

Hooker - 2016-01-14
I love how the example of a dystopian future they use is the city from Final Fantasy 7. Gamers are basically special needs children, aren't they?
Binro the Heretic - 2016-01-14
A video game reference in a series about video games?

infinite zest - 2016-01-14
There's also an Assassin Creed pic in there too.. in just 7 minutes I went from "oh yeah this is just like me with Neko Atsume/Simpsons Tapped Out what's the big deal" to "holy fuck what the fuck."

infinite zest - 2016-01-14
Also, so "mandatory" by 2020? Does that mean that everybody gets a smartphone in China by then? If so that doesn't sound too bad because my battery sucks: God used to be my co-pilot, now it's my charger so I wannanother! We've got Linkedin, Facebook, etc. that are constantly checked by potential employers too.

Xenocide - 2016-01-14
"Haw haw video games are dumb," said the guy who recognized the Final Fantasy reference immediately.

Hooker - 2016-01-15
Oh, am I on the wrong side of this one?

SolRo - 2016-01-14
Little weird seeing a game dev complaining about the systems they use to exploit kids and adults for money, sometimes to a destructive degree, complaining about said systems being used by other people to exploit others in different ways.
mosif - 2016-01-14
I think the idea was, if you can sell someone a feeling of accomplishment as well as make it fun and quantifiable, then they'll keep coming back for more. It relates to video games as much as patriotism apparently.

That guy - 2016-01-14
Smiley-faced totalitarianism from the nightmares of Orwell and Huxley.

And probably Aristophanes.
Oscar Wildcat - 2016-01-14
It's a sort of crude simulation of the market capitalist system we've developed to keep our proles enslaved.
EvilHomer - 2016-01-14
I don't know what you're talking about. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to put a French flag on my Facebook profile...

Kabbage - 2016-01-14
Are there in-app purchases to make me a better person
EvilHomer - 2016-01-14
Yeah, I've been hearing a lot about this. I bet Cass Sunstein and Pals are going to be happy.
Killer Joe - 2016-01-14
"Yeah, the stock market made a fucking crater out of my life savings and all, but this state-owned baozi restaurant is off the HOOK!"
Arcturus - 2016-01-14
It's not like its not happening in North America. For companies like Palantir its their entire business model. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/the-new-way-pol ice-are-surveilling-you-calculating-your-threat-score/2016/01/10/e 42bccac-8e15-11e5-baf4-bdf37355da0c_story.html?tid=ss_tw
SolRo - 2016-01-14
I wouldn't be surprised if there's also a corporate obedience score and/or 'tolerance for getting shit upon' rating for the working proles hidden somewhere in the HR nether realm

ashtar. - 2016-01-14
"credit score"

SolRo - 2016-01-14
Good point, your credit rating is checked for employment now.

infinite zest - 2016-01-15
Jeez.. I thought I was making a half-joke above: I'm on linkedin but I don't use it, so it says the last job I had was in 2008, when I half-assedly put together a profile with a picture of my cat as my profile. And my facebook is pretty much just random videos, but I'm friends with a lot of people who rant about specific things again and again, from politics to getting drunk and telling the world to go fuck itself, then probably deleting it the next day.

A friend of a friend of mine got fired from her job because she said something about how customers sucked, and her boss fired her, but she was also friends with her boss on there. So it's the same as saying "fuck my boss" at a bar after work and whoops the boss is right behind you, but I wonder where potential employers draw the line if they have access to this.

betamaxed - 2016-01-14
The same thing is happening to all of us right now in the USA only we don't get to know which private companies are collecting our social media data and ranking us based on their own hidden criteria.

At least China is being more transparent about it.
Nikon - 2016-01-14
Obedience brings victory,
and victory is life.
SolRo - 2016-01-14
The other interesting view here is how subjective this is.

It's based on the assumption by westerners that the Chinese government can only be oppressive and evil and wants to destroy "freedoms". While the people assuming this about China also have given their own governments free reign to spy on their communications and are perfectly happy with having unaccountable secret spy agencies doing who knows what because western governments -always- protect "freedoms" and as long as you're obedient and patriotic you have nothing to worry about (irony in the stratosphere)
infinite zest - 2016-01-15
Counterpoint: AMERICA RULES!

Kennifu - 2017-07-16
It's easy to be political correct and say that things are just as bad in North America. It is not. The Chinese government has been stepping up cracking on dissent and has been arresting, torturing and murdering human rights lawyers, etc. There is no equivalent in the West.

RocketBlender - 2016-01-15
This is actually kind of horrifying to me.
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