you call talk like that a "face turn" cena?

I think everybody (myself included) liked Full House when we were kids, but now we sort of appreciate it as being the epitome of the 90s wholesome family sitcom, before the mid-90s set in and we started seeing stuff based more on stand-up routines or real-life situations, like Seinfeld, Friends, Everybody Loves Raymond, go down the list.

But in 21 years, a lot has changed: I remember when I was a kid and someone told me that Danny used to do really dirty stand-up, and I didn't believe him; now he's probably better known for his Aristocrats joke and "blue" acting. Michelle(s) (although not in the reboot) we all know about, DJ's a born-again Christian, Jesse's had sort of a Doogie Houser MD career reboot of his own.. and the rest, I dunno.

Plus it's not like the 90s sitcom formula hasn't endured: everything on the Disney Channel follows that formula, so there's really nothing "nostalgic" about it, just a bunch of references to the 90s vs. Miley Cyrus (I'm sure there'll be at least one Miley joke in there too anyway).

How does liking Full House make me not a face? I respect Full House and years ago I even wrote a song inspired by the episode Road to Tokyo, where Jessie and the Rippers' single "Forever" goes #1 in Japan. The song is called Big in Japan and it's the best song ever having that title.
https://soundcloud.com/rumchug/big-in-japan

Ooooh, "Big In Japan" is one of my favorite Rumchug songs, but I had no idea it was based on Full House.

You said you consider yourself to be a nerdcore rapper, right? Because that's some Grade A nerdcore right there.

No! I said I hate nerdcore. Full House isn't for nerds. Nerdcore is where you sample a tune from an NES game and rap about Zelda.

"(something something about fucking Puffy AmiYumi)/ Then I'll go where video games are made"

plus the chiptunes synth at 0:37.


Nerdcore.

That sound didn't come from chip tuning. That sound comes on my E-MU MP-7 drum machine. Puffy is not a video game, they're a band, and I included a mention about video games and beating up Shiguru Miyamoto, because he's a nerd.

They're a cartoon J-pop band. Cartoons and J-pop are pillars of nerd culture; what you're doing is either nerdcore, or nerd cultural appropriation.

Puffy existed way before that shitty cartoon, and I am appropriating nerd culture into this song, because a lot of what Americans recognize as Japanese has become appropriated as nerd culture.

Actually, a lot of what you might think of as "Japanese culture" is, in fact, Japanese nerd culture. Nerds are an international phenomenon, and share a solidarity that crosses all ethnic, linguistic, and political divides.

You think you can appropriate nerd culture, but what you don't know, is that all the while nerd culture is really appropriating *you*.

Sorry, but Seinfeld sucks too.

In the best possible way.

I'm pretty apathetic towards Seinfeld; it's usually on in the background when I'm at work and once in a while I still find something funny, but that's about it. But when did everybody start deciding it sucked? Seems like only a couple of years ago my hipster housemates would be getting high and either watching Trailer Park Boys or Seinfeld and very little else, but now almost everybody dislikes it in one way or another.

I've just never found it funny. I don't think I've ever laughed at anything on that show.

I guess it depends on where in the run you catch it, the second season is where it really starts to get good and I'm sure it went to hell by 4 or 5 like virtually every show that made it past season 3, but I wasn't watching it by then.

Yeah, there's really not much good on there, although Beasts of No Nation was worth a month's subscription in itself, and Bloodline S1 was really good (no idea about S2; no spoilers but I don't think it needed a second season). But then there's the really overrated stuff like Master of None and Wet Hot American Summer (also didn't need a reboot) and I usually just fall asleep to X-Files or Trailer Park Boys every night, both of which I've seen in their entirity.

But the complete Twilight Zone is on now, so that's kinda cool. I gotta say I'm a little shocked that the Sandler movie did so well: maybe it's just my feed, but there's always something that looks better than that, and given that so many people subscribed for the first time was when they brought back Arrested Development, I'd think people would know from good humor.

There's some decent stuff on there. Been watching most of the Kubrick films this winter. They had House of the Devil last time I checked. Runaway Train is on there. Can't really complain about the X Files. River is pretty solid. Dicte is great. Never go into Foyle's War but some people love it. Thinking about rewatching Smoke Signals, haven't seen that since it first came out on video. They added a pretty good stack of Shaw Brothers movies recently - the streaming version of 5 Elements Ninjas has all the footage that was cut from the dubbed version that was on the DVD release, and looks great.

Their original programming is mostly crap though.

The problem is that their business model is still centered around DVDs so the streaming stuff is kind of a loss leader, and they hold back a lot of the best titles to make you get the DVD service, so their streaming selection is like Blockbuster used to be. Good for middlebrow trash, weak for the really good and really bad.

Funny that DVDs are still their main medium: I don't think I know a single person who uses Netflix for anything besides streaming content. People lose them, or they get scratched, or they just forget to mail them back. I'm sure there's reasons why they can't put brand new DVDs out for streaming the same day they offer them as physical ones, but it seems like in the long run it'd probably save the company a little money and the customer a lot of hassle.

Netflix shows that aren't shit:

House of Cards
Narcos
Jessica Jones
Bojack Horseman
a lo5 of good documentaries

I've heard good things about Wet Hot American Summer, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, and I tried to watch Sense 8 but it just annoyed me.

Oh yeah, forgot about Narcos. I could've done without the cliche Scorcese-esque overnarration, which at this point I don't even like in Scorcese films, but it's well-done. Bojack started getting REALLY good the last half of S2 for me, so I'm really anticipating S3, but other episodes are just another take on how much Hollywood sucks. Wish horses from the 90s of course.

Wet Hot American Summer's weird. I love David Wain and everything, and liked the movie, so I thought I'd like it more, and for the first episode I did; it's sort of what Moonrise Kingdom would've been like if Wain had directed it and that's a good thing, but most of the draw seems to be seeing celebrities who have since gotten huge (Poehler, Rudd, Cooper, etc.) kinda ham it up like they're kids at camp again, which I guess was the point. The whole series is easy to watch in a night, so I wouldn't hesitate if you were a fan of the original

I think Netflix has established a really good track record with their original content:

Daredevil - amazing.

Orange is the New Black - I never liked it, but most everyone else seems to think highly of it.

The 6-show sequel to Mr. Show - Really good, if a bit short

The second season of Peaky Blinders - excellent. (The first season was produced for... the BBC, I think)

Documentary about the Ukrainian revolution - terrible

Documentary about the recent Egyptian uprising - decent

Several Netflix-exclusive stand-up comedy specials- mostly very good

Making a Murderer - oddly fascinating, in a horrible trainwreck sort of way

Plus the programs RouS mentioned.

Overall, I'm pretty impressed with their original stuff. Granted, they haven't produced a large amount of stuff, but the quality of what they do put out is usually pretty high.

(For the purpose of this post, I'm going to pretend that Ridiculous 6 was never made. Oh, and Marco Polo. That one doesn't exist either.)

You forgot one of the gems in the crown- House of Cards -Fincher/ Spacey

Narcos was phenomenal, and I really enjoy Peaky Blinders and Dadedevil. Orange is the New Black is a mixed bag; it's very good "as a show" (writing, acting etc), but ethically and socially it's absolutely reprehensible. Bojack I tried for two episodes but couldn't get into, Marco Polo is fine.

i'd also like to recommend The Borgias (both are good, but the Italian, non-Jeremy-Irons one is better), Mad Men (not Netflix original, but lots of seasons on Netflix), and any/all of their Korean historical martial arts dramas. The worst Netflix show I've watched more than a few episodes of was that chickflick one about Mary, Queen of Scots, and the worst Netflix show PERIOD was that post-apocalyptic one about all the power switching off, aka the "Charmin Toilet Paper product placement" show.

Yeah, somebody upthread mentioned House of Cards. The first two seasons of that were, indeed, really really good. The third season though...... what the fuck happened? Where did the brilliance go? The mojo? Son, I am disappoint.

Speaking of Peaky Blinders, I watched a few episodes of the first season and couldn't get into it, although I like the atmosphere and Cillian Murphy in general. Could I just pick it up with S2 and be fine or should I wait out the first season?

Oh yeah, Lillehammer is good too. It's basically Silvio from The Sopranos stuck in a small Norwegian town, which sounds like just another Fish Out of Water (possible pun intended) story, but it works really, really well, like much better than it should.

You'd probably be fine. There are plot points you'll miss, but Peaky Blinders does a good job of explaining itself. And Lillehammer was alright; it got off to a rocky start, but I can't say I regret watching it - which is more than I can say for Orange, Mary Queen of Scots, and that damnable Charmin show.

EvilHomer, are you talking about Revolution? Because that looked horrendously bad.

ROUS is correct. Also River is a Netflix original I think, and it's pretty solid.

EH, give Bojack another chance, I had to watch 3 or 4 episodes before I warmed up to it but then I ended up watching the whole series in a week.

I really enjoyed better call saul, new season seems alright as well

If I remember correctly, EvilHomer is right: you probably can start Peaky Blinders in season 2. But the better question is: Why would you want to? As much as I liked the Netflix-original Season 2, I thought it wasn't as good as Season 1. So if you're not digging Season 1, why would you want to watch More of the Same Except Slightly Worse(tm)?

Was it Revolution? I can't remember the name of it; I've blocked out the memory.

YES! That WAS the one! Revolution. God, it was so fucking horrible. I actually felt a little violated after watching it (no, seriously; it was the same helpless-confused-rage feeling I get from watching Daniel Songer) I gave it two, maybe three episodes, since I usually enjoy post-apocalyptic stuff no matter how crap it is, but hoooo boy Revolution cured me of THAT hobby.

I'm really looking forward to The Last Kingdom (Bernard Cornwall is one of my favorite fiction authors) and Season 3 of Black Mirror. Those two alone should more than justify the Netflix subscription, in spite of Fuller House and Revolution.

Michelle was overrated as a character. We don't need her.

Michelle is the only character I remember, but she's also the only one who had a career after this show ended. The salary for even one Olsen would probably cost twice the rest of the cast budget combined.

Also, the one who turned into a coke whore; I forget what her name was, but she was pretty hot.

John Stamos has a great career. Remember Jake in Progress, those Greek yogert commercials, and Grandfathered.

John who? Was he the guy who said "whoa" all the time?

John Stamos = Bojack Horseman

My sister went to the same elementary school as the coke whore. I only saw her once, at a PTA meeting I was forced to go to, and she wouldn't shut up in the seat in front of me. My sister was weirdly intimidated by her and I kept trying to tell her Full House was shitty and she shouldn't be intimidated by anyone who is in a sitcom but she wouldn't listen to me, because we are very different people and she never listened to me about anything.

John Stamos is hot but I have an odd fixation on Dave Coulier and really want to see him naked. He's hot, and I really want to see him play another fucking character because Uncle Joey is the most useless character.

I still remember hating the episode where someone tells Joey that being a stand up comedian isn't a real job, so he goes out and automatically becomes a cel phone using stock broker businessman who is super successful and this horrifies his family, and they beg him to go back to being a bum at the end. I was so angry with him for quitting that job! This is probably because I was raised by bums.

Oh, I didn't know that Joey does the voice of Ronald Reagan on China, IL. That's cool. That was sort of Joey's whole thing though, that he never grew up, which in a way I can relate to (I'm 34 and live in a basement, and refuse to take everyone's advice and go back to grad school), but he was the only one who could cheer people up (or at least try) when they were all feeling down, which is really the foundation of any happy home.

But yeah, Full House without Michele is like Family Matters without Urkel. And as far as cost goes, I'm guessing getting Candice Cameron and John Stamos, since Cameron's had success with that dancing show and Stamos was on ER among other successful TV shows. In fact, I'll bet the announcement of this show prompted people to IMDB the Michelles, who haven't done shit for 5 or 6 years.

Oh wow! So I just looked up the original show on Wikipedia (coke-hottie's name is Jodie Sweetin, by the way) and it turns out the Full House family had a dog (don't remember that at all), who was played by - wait for it -

Air Bud!

No shit, the original Air Bud! Apparently Air Bud died immediately after filming the first movie and had to be replaced, but he's definitley one of the most influential canine-American actors in recent history - possibly since Lassie, even.

Air Bud dog was ok. But I was more impressed with Wishbone's range.

Supposedly she's running some fashion empire in New York or something along those lines. I can't remember the exact details, but her absence does get explained.

The only they're running is dope up their collective arm al day every day

I think it would be funny if she was just in Danny's imagination and was a way for him to cope with losing his wife.

God, this show took zero chances with its writing.

How would that make sense? Michelle would have to be a delusional shared by the entire family, her friends, and classmates.

Maybe the whole time it was Danny who died, not his wife, Full House being his sort of version of the afterlife!

Also the episode where Michelle falls off the horse and doesn't remember who her family is. Given that there were two Michelles in the same scenario at the same time, it's a classic case of quantum superposition or something. Michelle could exist and not exist at the same time, just like famous cat.

Yeah that could work. A paradox of Michelles where one Michelle is from a universe where she is dead and the other from a universe where she's alive and she shifts every episode, and reality shifts with her. But with the shifts come horrible changes such as Danny and the other Tanners believing they are insane and having a psychotic breakdown.

Of course when I mentioned the possibility of Danny imagining her I was referring to the "Full House without Michelle" edit someone made a while back, which is way funnier than the actual show.

And will someone please just give the fans what they really want and make Joey and Jesse full time porn stars that work for Colt? I mean how the hell else are they going to afford living there?

Michelle wanted million and to make her bag of coke a main character. She died offscreen testing one of the new planes.

The fact that the memo announcing the launch of this show didn't start with the sentence "Ladies and Gentlemen, Always Sunny in Philadelphia is going down" followed by all of them doing their damnedest to get kicked off Netflix as fast as possible for gross acts of graphic indecency only happened in this universe. In infinite parallels, this show won fifty six Internet awards, lasted four episodes, and was banned in Germany with its producers jailed in Norway after an international manhunt involving NATO and the Mafia working with ISIS and Benni Hinn Ministries to barely save the world.

Fuck this universe.

I used to get it for free from an old housemate, but decided to get it for my parents for Mother's day, since I spent 2 months crashing at their house and watching netflix, and they got into a couple shows I was watching, like Lillehammer, and couldn't understand why it didn't come up on their regular cable TV. Since it's two remote accounts for 7.99 it really isn't that bad. Hulu Plus and HBO Go I leech though. Now if only there was something worth watching on either of those..

Like why the fuck does Hulu Plus even have an AMC channel if all they have is Fear of the Walking Dead? Would it be that hard to put on the new season of Better Call Saul? Oh well.. :(

I've never paid for it either. Who pays for Netflix? Borrowing Netflix logins is why we have relatives.

Hulu Plus has the entire Criterion Collection.

I am the relative that pays for the Netflix. :(

Whaa whaa whhhaaaaaaaaa

Golden Palace was a masterpiece. It had three Golden Girls AND a wacky ethnic sidekick.

Then later, Sophia moved next door to the Empty Nest family, which was an important step in building the Golden Girls Cinematic Universe.

As fun as Chuy was, I'm still bitter about what they did to Miles Webber.

I always thought the Golden Girls' house (before Golden Palace) was basically next door to the Westons' though.

Nah I think it'll be an as yet unannounced Kirk Cameron project, which will most likely be Left Behind 3: With a Vengeance. Either that or one where he plays an everyday electrician who finds god after he mistakenly miswires a skyscraper and roasts everyone inside.

Also who the fuck asked for this shit?