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Old_Zircon - 2016-02-23

I just can't bring myself to watch a Nostalgia Critic video, I'm sure he makes some god points.

Quad9Damage - 2016-02-24

He does make some god points.

Cena_mark - 2016-02-23

I hate siding with the big studios, but I don't see how these people can show over a quarter of a movie in their reviews and call it fair use.

Monkey Napoleon - 2016-02-23

I also hate siding with studios, but the current system is a fairly decent compromise considering the logistical impossibility of going over every claim by hand.

Nominal - 2016-02-24

Except that the accusations are automated and the defendant is instantly guilty until proven innocent.

Cena_mark - 2016-02-24

That's true Nominal. I see that how that part of the system is jacked up, I just don't see how his excessive use of footage is justified as fair use.

EvilHomer - 2016-02-24

Think of him as cultural jammer, Cena. "Intellectual property" is a sham; it does not exist, as it cannot fulfill even the most basic philosophical requirements for being considered property! IP law is an entirely self-serving system of artificial scarcity, created by and for megacorporations (most notably Disney). It doesn't encourage growth, it doesn't encourage creativity, hell it doesn't even protect the rights of the artists who actually create the works in question - despite the fact that protecting the economic rights of artists was the central rational behind creating copyright law in the first place.

Never let it be said that I am fond of Nostalgia Critic! I am not. He's a scoundrel. But in this instance, he's a useful scoundrel. At worst, and I mean at absolute worst, we should look at him in the same way that Graham Fuller looks at Central Asian Muslims - as an expendable tool to be used for achieving our broader political aims.

Cena_mark - 2016-02-24

If that's how you feel about intellectual property then why are you against sampling? A sampled song get's full royalties, even if it's just a few seconds. This has really inhibited music.

EvilHomer - 2016-02-24

I don't oppose sampling on property grounds, and I have certainly never claimed that sampling should be *illegal* (no more than cover songs or tablature or strumming a chord on your guitar which sounds vaguely like a chord once played by The Beatles should be illegal). Also, you are mislabeling me: I am not "against" sampling, I am merely, if and when the situation warrants, critical of its over-use.

I completely agree with you that the regulation of samples via copyright law inhibits musical creativity! It's a small, but nevertheless still significant, casualty of this war, and a perfect example of why (as a rap musician yourself) you should not side with the major studios.

Cena_mark - 2016-02-24

Sorry for mislabeling you. You're right, you never opposed sampling, you just question it's artistic merit fair enough.
Why is the Nostalgia Critic a scoundrel? Is he some kind of asshole IRL?

EvilHomer - 2016-02-24

Of course he's an asshole. He steals like a quarter of every movie in his reviews.

EvilHomer - 2016-02-25

Interesting aside: Francine StripeCheer is a sample-based musician, too! I say this because Francine's keyboard uses sampled, rather than synthesized, sound (e.g. when on piano voice, each key plays a single-note recording of a Yamaha grand piano, rather than digitally synthesizing the note) A strong philosophical argument can therefore be made that, of the currently released recording tests, 100% of the content "is" "sampled".

Rosebeekee - 2016-02-24

Nostalgia Critic doesn't even review movies, he condenses them down to 20 minutes and screams pop culture jokes into his camera.

Spaceman Africa - 2016-02-24

i really hope youtube is stealing the nostalgia critic's money

lotsmoreorcs - 2016-02-24

a hopper loss, ZERO stars

Gmork - 2016-02-25

there ya go

StanleyPain - 2016-02-24

fuck nostalgia SHITic.

(see what I did there? It's almost a Nostalgia Critic joke!)

Rosebeekee - 2016-02-24

Needs more high pitched, girly screaming.

Anaxagoras - 2016-02-24

Also a shitty over-acted skit.

Nostalgia Critic reminds me of Weird Al, except Weird Al has talent & is endearing, while Nostalgia Critic is the opposite of both those things.

And yet, somehow, the resemblance is there. I don't understand.

TheGrungle - 2016-02-24

i'm going to copyright gunshot sound effects

mashedtater - 2016-02-24

also copyright wearing those hats...

memedumpster - 2016-02-24

Completely unwatchable hipster millennial baby crying for titty milk drek. Voted it up to watch the expoesion. Exploesion. Poesplosion. Whatever.

Cena_mark - 2016-02-24

Now why do you hate him so much? His act may not be your thing, but he's just a guy trying to make a living doing what he loves.

memedumpster - 2016-02-24

I don't hate him, or disagree, I just find his schtick unwatchable. I don't think he should be oppressed or anything.

memedumpster - 2016-02-24

Here's a person with a real purpose's opinion about it that is quite good.

Nikon - 2016-02-24

There's no punishment for making a false takedown claim. As a result, people can use these false claims to take down criticism, remixes, reinterpretations (vaporwave), etc.

Quad9Damage - 2016-02-24

Isn't it illegal to file a false DMCA claim? Isn't that exactly what these copyright bots are doing?

CrimsonHyperSloth - 2016-02-24

Of course it's illegal, the problem is there is essentially no way to get recourse. The law is really broken.

memedumpster - 2016-02-24

Considering Europe would rather see Hitler exist than Google at this point (rightly so), and Google has no product (except maybe one day a self driving car that will kill slightly less people than drunk drivers and texters) that isn't near worthless and exploitative against everyone, I'm shocked a class action lawsuit tsunami hasn't washed up into their hugbox laden cafeteria yet.

How are they not the most immediately court-slaughtered corporation on earth, every day, for all time? We need to cash them out like a set of chips from a Trump casino before the rest of the world decides only nukes are the answer to them.

Monkey Napoleon - 2016-02-24

It's not against the law to "file a false DMCA claim" on youtube. The claim system in place is an internal mediation mechanism that keeps youtube from being utterly buried under legit legal claims and carries no force of law whatsoever.

It's not a legally recognized DMCA claim, it's the automated equivalent of whining to forum mods that everyone is mean to you.

Monkey Napoleon - 2016-02-24

And also you *have* to have a system in place that allows for bulk error or else you can't have a content hosting site as large and influential as youtube because they will bury you in legitimate infringement cases.

Quad9Damage - 2016-02-24

I understand it's taboo to submit anything Channel Awesome here, but YouTube's system is beyond broken. Because YouTube/Google has eschewed any human interaction whatsoever in favor of server bots, I've had to go through the claims process because background static was flagged as copyrighted music.

If Cinema Snob gets strikes for videos where he talks to his friends in the car (there are no clips whatsoever in the Midnight Screenings; the radio is never on either) something is definitely wrong.

Also! TeamFourStar got their channel yanked last night. I really like those guys, and they're pretty chill with FUNImation.

memedumpster - 2016-02-24

Shit, I thought YouTube literally just implemented a whole system to stop doing this shit. I guess it was temporary.

Personally, I think we should all be like China and just steal and use whatever suits us. It's not like civilization needs this shit, and isn't on its way out anyway.

memedumpster - 2016-02-24

Oh, by the way, TFS is back!

Time to fuck the fear turkey.

chumbucket - 2016-02-24

"I've been doing this professionally for over 8 years.."


This feels less like his idea that this is "corporations vs The Internet" and more like greedy anger over greedy people working against greedy people.

Waugh - 2016-02-24

don't worry idiots i'm sure google is really concerned

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