|Cena_mark - 2016-02-22 |
Amazing. This video makes me sad that Bush left office. I want more.
What's really sad is I check my news every day, and this wasn't even a front page story.
|lotsmoreorcs - 2016-02-22 |
did you guys see the recent bit on either daily or nightly show where they posited the theory of the bush family only put jeb out there so fail spectacularly so he could garner sympathy and therefore make Dubya ultimately look a little better Historically speaking?
No, but it certainly did the opposite. Jeb!'s candidacy put W's legacy back in the forefront to get shat on.
|Meerkat - 2016-02-22 |
Jeb reminds me of one of my hapless friends; he doesn't really have a great sense of humour, he isn't charming or well-read, tends to stumble from job to job never really getting ahead or falling behind, does the same with marriages. But if you ever needed his help with something, he would be right there trying (and failing) to help ... it's hard to feel strongly one way or another about Jeb.
|Bobonne - 2016-02-22 |
Being "the only adult in the room" is now a proven losing strategy within the GOP.
You're giving too much credit to the guy who's mommy carried him through the campaign trail.
Who, btw told him he wasn't her favorite in front of everyone.
There is no reason to feel sorry for this person.
He was supposed to win.
GOP magnates dumped 0,000,000 into this endless blackhole of a man, and I hope his failure marks the end of the Bush dynasty forever.
For you baleen.
Nah, Paris still raps. He released a new album just a few months ago.
The Bush bloodline must really be hurting! I can't imagine what would happen to someone who rapped that sort of stuff about Obama.
It's a shame, though, about Jeb. As we all know, the Bush wrestling dynasty produced some of the best heels in the business! They were political-entertainment's Guerrero family, and they will be missed. (at least until Jenna is old enough to run for office)
|Oscar Wildcat - 2016-02-22 |
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the notion of running for political office when your last name is so toxic it can only be represented in public by a bang character. Also : 130 million USD campaign! 3000 USD per vote in SC. Hell, he'd have won the state if he could have borne paying the voters directly instead of the middle men, but there's a Bush for you.
>> I'm still trying to wrap my head around the notion of running for political office when your last name is so toxic it can only be represented in public by a bang character.
You'd think this, and yet, lo and behold, the Democrats are seriously considering Hillary as their candidate.
Maybe you've been hanging out at the VA too much, Homer. The Clinton name is exactly what is keeping this person afloat. Outside of that and her hoohah, what does she really have to offer the voters?
I suppose in deference to Bort I should point out that, on paper at least, she's the best qualified and most experienced person for the job. But we all know how things will go when she is in office: her great flaw being that she is genetically incapable of not responding to republican trolls. Lots of drama about nothing burgers, and nothing substantial gets done.
I'll admit, I'll miss the current guy. Not because he's been such a fantastic president, but because he's the only adult in the room. It's been really nice having a president that doesn't make you feel ashamed of being American. I think we'll all come to appreciate that in the years to come.
I've told you this before, it's a Connecticut VA. We're the heart of Blue Team America; people there will vote for whomever the Democrats offer up, regardless of the context. Which I guess also answers your question: what she has to offer besides her name is her party affiliation. It's a stupid reason to vote for her, I know! I agree with you 110% that she's a terrible candidate and 120% that the underclasses should stop putting their faith in top-down solutions. But hanging around this particular VA, most people like Clinton. Or Trump. Which makes sense, given that he's just as neo-liberal as Hillary, and a better paymaster to veterans.
However, that is just my local frame of reference. The Clintons are pretty notorious in Red Team America - at least as notorious as the Bushes are here! (ironic, given that Dubs was born just down the street from where I live) I think you know this AND agree with me already, hence why you suspect I've "spent too much time around the VA" - the underlying conceit being that veterans are Red Teamers who hate the Clinton name. (not true about the veterans, true about the Reds)
Well out here in the Wild West, ours are and do, stridently. Better Red than Dead. It's what we're fighting for.
Any predictions on who might win in a Trump/Clinton showdown?
Besides, I mean toxic to everyone, Republicans included. If the primary results weren't enough to convince you, consider jeb2016.com vs hillaryclinton.com. Notably absent from the latter, is the name Rodham. Now the former... Say, that guy looks familiar. What was his name?
|memedumpster - 2016-02-22 |
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb!
What is it, Granny!?
That's exactly what I hear in my head whenever I see "Jeb!"
|That guy - 2016-02-23 |
(like it matters..... the dubya admin damage is already done)
|kingarthur - 2016-02-23 |
I think the Jeb v Trump dynamic represents a rejection of the RNC establishment and status quo by the belligerent working class and middle class of the party more than anything.
Now what are the Republicans going to do? They've got a sociopath in Cruz who's garnering the evangelical vote. They've got Il Duce with a toupee in Trump who is the monster they've made with running against politics for the past ten years or more. And then they've got Rubio who is desperately being clung to as the next great Latino hope for the establishment GOP.
It doesn't look good.
And the DNC is determined to force Hilary down our throats and make us beg for more. Both parties are completely out of touch with the people.
I'm not as scared of Trump as I used to be. I've seen this anti-Trump ad, where he's saying all kinds of liberal things.
I'm starting to believe that Trump isn't as far right as I feared, he just knows what he needs to be to win the GOP Primary. Once he wins, we can see the real Trump.
>> I'm starting to believe that Trump isn't as far right as I feared, he just knows what he needs to be to win the GOP Primary.
He's not, Cena. I've mentioned this numerous times before, but up until a few years ago, he was a Democrat and a close friend of the Clintons. He's a neo-liberal and a welfare cheat, which makes him a perfect centrist candidate for either party! The "real Trump" will be the same as the real Obama, or the real Bernie, or even the real Cruz.
There's nothing "scary" about Trump - at least, nothing scary as compared to any of the other candidates, which is admittedly still pretty scary when considered in a historical perspective.
I guess I should give you more credit. It's just after some of the crazy things you've said about sampling, Steven Universe, Andy Warhol, Frankenstein, etc. I might jump to conclusions that you're wrong.
Oh ye of little faith...!
I'll give you an example. Here's an interview he did waaaay back in 2004, during the height of the Bush years:
This is all in the public record and well-known to people who've had a working relationship with Trump, yet neither the corporate media, nor his fellow candidates, bother to mention it. Why do you think that is...?
I really don't know why? That political ad I posted is the only real thing I've seen come up on Trump's liberal past. I don't get why the GOP has allowed him to run amok as he is. He's turning their whole system upside down destroying establishment and the evagelion candidates, and I'm loving it.
Sanest Man Alive
Well, Cena, if you really wanna drag the Evangelion candidates into this...
Shinji would vote for Trump in the primaries if everyone else told him to/guilted him into it, but as soon as November rolls around he'll somehow singlehandedly undo first-past-the-post polling, vote for himself, and win.
Asuka would gladly vote for Trump and even volunteer for his campaign at first, but when he eventually makes his counter-heel-turn she'll go off the grid for a while before committing suicide by cop on the 5 o'clock news.
Rei is barred from all polls owing to a cloning vote fraud scandal from a year ago.
Toji would say nothing but hint strongly at voting for Trump, until he storms a convention hall, declares his own candidacy for the Republican ticket, opens fire on the audience, and has to be neutralized by Shinji.
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