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Desc:Hillary responds to a young woman in Minnesota who appears to challenge Clinton
Category:News & Politics
Tags:clinton, Hillary Clinton, white privilege, election 2016, Black Lives Matter
Submitted:namtar
Date:03/03/16
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Comment count is 38
namtar
It's pretty easy to run for office. All you have to do is buy a house in a state where there's a retiring office holder, and then use the connections, donors, and name recognition gained from your husband's years as president and your work as first lady to build a strong campaign.
SolRo
Yep. Hillary is just an unqualified woman using her husbands connections to steal the election from a qualified man (that hasn't achieved much in 20 years of being in Washington.)

namtar
Who said anything about Hillary being unqualified, or Bernie Sanders?

This is about Clinton making a smug comment to a young black woman, telling her to run for office like it's just that fucking easy.

Maybe it was easy for people like Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush, George W. Bush, or Donald Trump, but for people who aren't part of some political dynasty or born rich it ain't that fucking simple to run and win.

ashtar.
That's unfair. She did wish her good luck.

SolRo
It actually is somewhat easy if you actually start building up political experience and connections by running for small positions in your home states.

Or are you one of those guys that thinks anyone with some "fresh and exciting" ideas should be guaranteed a presidential win if they decide to run, no previous experience in politics required?

...Why don't you tell us why the young woman -shouldn't- run for some office in her state? Getting more black policy makers into office would be more effective than just demanding Hilary "fix" centuries of American racial injustice before she's even president.

namtar
I'm one of those guys that thinks that a president shouldn't be a condescending jerk to voters.

Hillary wasn't offering that woman advice or encouraging her to be the change she wants to see; she was telling her to fuck off.

jfcaron_ca
I ran in the 2015 Canadian federal election. Things I needed were:

1) 1000$ in spare cash for a deposit I haven't gotten back yet
2) Lots of time off from work (fortunately was waiting for thesis revisions during crucial times)
3) Figure out how to hire an accountant for auditing without getting screwed in fees

This was for a minimal campaign where I spent literally 19$ on photocopying and did everything myself.

I don't know how it works in the US, but it seems here in Canada running as an independent has significant barriers. That said it was a lot of fun, I learned a lot, and I hope more people try it. We need more independents even if they don't win, because it pushes the established parties into talking about topics they'd like to avoid.

Meerkat
There is a little matter of paying rent, feeding kids, all those pesky things you have to worry about when you aren't a condescending and dismissive fortunate-birth fuck.

SolRo
Surprisingly a lot of low level politicians still manage to get into office without being obscenely rich and still paid for rent and fed their kids.

SolRo
Also did anyone actually make out the whole conversation or are you just latching on to the part Clinton said? Damn hard to hear any of it.

baleen
I see that years of maintaining a Hillary Clinton terrarium have taught you well, SolRo. Was it that the terrarium itself was based on the White House garden, or that the turtle inside was named Hillary Clinton? Could you tell us that story again?

memedumpster
Stars for jfcaron_ca, the only politician who will speak to us.

Monkey Napoleon
Bill and Hillary have been working on their political careers together since they were in college. That's like, what, 40 years or thereabouts?

I'm not particularly fond of Hillary or anything, but suggesting that she's only here because she's riding the coat-tails of her husband is borderline retarded.

That guy
I get to hate on Clinton and SolRo in the same thread.

That guy
It's like Christmas sucked off my birthday.

Nominal
!!!!!!!
Nominal
^jcafron reply
gravelstudios
On one hand, I sort of agree with her. I can't count the number of times I was listening to somebody complain about their local elected officials and thinking to myself, "if you think you could do a better job, then you run, or shutup." The problem is, she comes off sounding like your mom lecturing you, which is a real turn off to young people.
Bort
True enough, she's being pretty cranky and dickish. If Bill had been there, he would have said something like, "You know, this country needs more people just like you in public office to make a difference, run for office and you've got my vote".

Just imagine what the polished, prepared Hillary version of that would have been. Eeesh. I think I prefer cranky Hillary.

Old_Zircon
The dry, sarcastic condescension and then laughing as the girl walked away really tip the scales though.

Plus the issues raised above that "just run" isn't a viable answer for a lot of people, especially for younger black people, when conservatively at least 20% (of men, at least, incarceration rates for women aren't as easy to come by but are presumably lower) under have been jailed at some point, which typically means they can't even vote much less run for office.

Old_Zircon
I really want to like Hillary more than I do since it's likely that I'm going to have to vote for her in the fall, but it keeps getting harder to do, and I have real reservations about her being able to beat Trump in the general election.

Ersatz
One of my biggest problems with Hillary Clinton is that she (at least acts like she) thinks she's the smartest person in the room by about 20 IQ points, and she actually is not. This leads to situations like this where she cannot bear to have a discussion with someone with an opposing viewpoint, because she's figured out the answer already, so why don't you just listen to the brilliant words she has to say, and shut up already?

I'd feel better if she were sitting with her buddies on some hedge fund, considering themselves masterminds (and collecting millions in fees) for outperforming the stock sheet on a dartboard by two-tenths of a percent. Obama acknowledged and lamented the bubble that high-ranking politicians find themselves in; I fear politicians that look at Lilliputian flappers as a perquisite of office.

SolRo
Your proof or theory on why Hillary is not smarter than the average crowd?

Because your statement just sounds like a dumb person whining.

Nikon
Just saying, there's a certain fella from Vermont who wants to listen to you rather than talk at you. He even allowed Black Lives maTter (BLT) to preempt one of his campaign speeches.
EvilHomer
Yeah, but Jerry Greenfield's only listening to you because he wants you to buy his ice cream. You have to take the good with the bad.
EvilHomer
^ Reply to nikon

chumbucket
"I will" rabble rabble "very" rabble rabble rabble "very proud" rabble rabble rabble "you know what dear" rabble rabble "city council" click click click "then why don't you go run for something" click click clickitey-click "hahahahaha hi doggy "you're my favorite customer" "bye"
John Holmes Motherfucker
The good news is that YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE HER. Although, it looks to me like you'd better get used to her.

People have hated Hilary Clinton for over 20 years, for whatever reason has seemed convenient at the time. These days, it's because she's seen as the establishment. Twenty years ago, it was because she was seen as against the establishment. And because of nonsense like this.

Okay, maybe I shouldn't say that. I didn't watch the video, since lately but I can only reach this site on my 3G phone.Don't feel like I'm missing much.

Last night I got dogpiled in Twitter by a pack of Bernie's kid who were still feeling their Super Tuesday Butthurt. The most pompous of the bunch
felt that I was trivializing his concerns about Hillary being a sociopath. I responded as I usually do, with my video of Jesus doing the jerkoff sign.Hope he didn't find it a turnoff.

I really love Bernie Sanders, love what he's accomplished, and I hope Hillary takes a lesson from Barak and gives him a job. But a third of these holier than thou kids will be voting Republican in 20 years. Not because they're Millenials or any of that bullshit. Just because theyre kids, and they have yet to discover how much they love their privelege

Not the young black woman , though. I hope she DOES run for office!
EvilHomer
Yes, we'd better get used to her! When Trump wins the Presidency, he's bound to give his ol' pal Hillary a place in his cabinet.

John Holmes Motherfucker
It's not gonna happen. She's will spank him. Once Drumpf is no longer competing with Republicans for only Republican votes, the magic will fade. All she has to do is not get dragged into the schoolyard insults and silly dick jokes.

The real problem for the Republicans isn't Drumpf, it's the failure to come up with one serious candidate.

Old_Zircon
JHM don't underestimate the previously untapped social forces Trump has unleashed, and don't make the mistake of thinking that knowledge or reason or our best interests have anything to do with why people cast the votes they do (or why they do much of anything else, for that matter).


If humans were rational we wouldn't need science.

Doc Victor
Whatever OZ said is probably right, but for that and a thousand more reasons, regardless of where you fall on the political spectrum, you are out of your mind if you think a Trump/Clinton race will be a one-sided affair. I am not sure how often you actually leave the house, John, but even in a state and region as classically liberal as the one you call home, the writing is literally on the wall.

Old_Zircon
"Whatever OZ said is probably right"


The most intelligent thing ever said on this site.

EvilHomer
Who the hell is "Drumpf"? At first I thought that was a dumb typo for "Trump", but you keep saying it, so now I'm thinking it might be intentional.

Binro the Heretic
"Quit giving me shit and go vote for me. YOU FUCKING OWE ME! I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING TO GET THIS! I DESERVE THIS!"
Doc Victor
Not exactly a shock but I'll give 'em up for that

John Holmes Motherfucker
Being wrong won't cost me anything, so I'll say it again. Drumpf hasn't unleashed shit. The real story isn't drumpf, it's the fact that the fact that the Republicans could not come up with a serious candidate.It could have been bulk Hogan, Chuck Norris, or chuck Woolery, but it was Drumpf, He was simply the most entertaining clown in the he clown car. It's going to get serious now.
EvilHomer
Hey John, what is your position regarding the World Bank?

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