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Desc:Unfortunately gives credence to the 'good guy with a gun' argument.
Category:Accidents & Explosions, News & Politics
Tags:guns, bicycle, america
Submitted:jfcaron_ca
Date:09/15/16
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Comment count is 19
chumbucket
the gun made him do it
Nominal
The penis made the other one hit & run.

Cena_mark
For every "good guy with a gun" story there's dozens more senseless accidents, tragedies, and suicides with guns.
love
well, what else could he do? it's really hard to write down a plate number with a gun in your hand.

love
wasn't really supposed to be a reply, but maybe it works?

Cena_mark
It works.

Cena_mark
Likely a large percentage of "good guy with a gun" stories don't require a "good guy with a gun" like in this case.

15th
Extended family chain mail fodder.
TeenerTot
I'm uneasy about this. If the driver ran, would the guy have shot him? Are we to assume now that it's OK for armed citizens to take hostages if they suspect a law has been broken?

Also, here in Missouri the legislature just passed a "constitutional carry" law. No permit? No training? No problem! And they expanded protections for shooters a la "stand your ground." I think I need to move.
Accidie
Yeah, no. If you see somebody running people down with their car and not stopping you're allowed to shoot them.

We haven't got ALL the details in this report, but I think it's troubling that you're immediately finding a way to villainize a guy who did a pretty admirable thing in stopping this guy and did not pull the trigger.

Missouri does suck though.

TeenerTot
I'm not trying to villainize the guy. I don't think. I dunno. I just find it scary to have armed citizens making decisions that might be better left to police.

Accidie
I don't think stopping a guy running people over with his SVU should ever be referred to as "taking a hostage". Gun or not.

Cena_mark
We're talking about a simple hit and run, not a Nice style rampage of vehicular homicide. Shooting at him would not be acceptable.

jfcaron_ca
Emotionally this is satisfying, but I'm with TeenerTot (and Zizek) about this. An extreme way to express my feeling is: the State should have a total monopoly on violence. Holding someone against their will, including by threat of death, is a form of violence.

Then again I feel that even police should be completely disallowed to use their guns unless they have a credible lethal threat against them.

Accidie
I agree there are many points to be balanced, and little revealed in this story, but all y'all seem pretty content to forget about him running over a bicyclist(maybe you, your wife, your mom or dad or sibling) and assume you'd be fine with him getting away.

I'm no gun nut, but this was a time where somebody having one and using it responsibly was a pro-social action. Yes it's not an absolute argument the way it's often used to oppose gun control measures, but y'all look like sheep trying to find something wrong with it to discredit it.

Cena_mark
You're the sheep for trying to justify this trigger happy loon's act of dick size increasing vigilantism. Sign up for the NRA, get a free bag.

Accidie
Nice try Cena, I've been on here awhile.

Cena_mark
I'll bet if the NRA told you to go to a camp, you'd go.

Two Jar Slave
Solid trigger discipline. So, that's something.
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